AmeriKa

The K in Amerika.

An old friend of mine  recently left a comment on my Wall at facebook concerning the way I spell Amerika.

He seemed a bit confused why I would do so.

I have been doing it for so long that I barely notice anymore (I never liked the letter C anyway, it is a worthless letter. We have K & S! Smiles to those with C in their Names).

The K in Amerika is there for a very good reason.

Amerika is not the country I thought it was when I was growing up.

The Patriot Act – which is one of the most dangerous documents produced to date by the U.S. Government- strips Americans of their Freedoms.

They do this in the name of Security.

“They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security.”
~Ben Franklin

The Patriot Act must be repealed and until it is, the K stays in Amerika.

I encourage everyone who realizes the Dangers of the Patriot Act – not just for Americans but the International Community – to adopt the K in Amerika as a Protest and to help spread Awareness.

The Patriot Act has not done much in catching ‘Terrorists’ but it sure has helped rounding up all those ‘Dangerous’ Peaceniks who smoke a little weed now & again.

Moving right along…

For those of you who ‘vote’ for a President, remember that it matters not who is Commander in Chief.  The President is a part in the Machine. He has no control, but he certainly is being controlled.

You may feel good that you have done your part in voting the right man in, but please realize that your vote (for Prez) is designed to just make you feel good.

The President does not win by popular vote.

Check out the College Electorate (CE).

Actually, I’ll do it for you:

Electoral College: consists of the popularly elected representatives (electors) who formally elect the President and Vice President of the United States. Since 1964, there have been 538 electors in each presidential election. Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 of the Constitution specifies how many electors each state is entitled to have and that each state’s legislature decides how its electors are to be chosen; U.S. territories are not represented in the Electoral College.

The Electoral College is an example of an indirect election.

Rather than directly voting for the President and Vice President, United States citizens vote for electors.

Electors are technically free to vote for anyone eligible to be President, but in practice pledge to vote for specific candidates and voters cast ballots for favored presidential and vice presidential candidates by voting for correspondingly pledged electors.

The Twelfth Amendment provides for each elector to cast one vote for President and one vote for Vice President. It also specifies how a President and Vice President are elected.

Critics argue the Electoral College is inherently undemocratic and gives certain swing states disproportionate clout in selecting the President and Vice President. Proponents argue that the Electoral College is an important and distinguishing feature of federalism in the United States and protects the rights of smaller states. Numerous constitutional amendments have been introduced in the Congress seeking a replacement of the Electoral College with a direct popular vote; however, no proposal has ever passed the Congress.”  ~Wikipedia

Here is a link describing the pros & cons of the CE.

http://www.uselectionatlas.org/INFORMATION/INFORMATION/electcollege_procon.php

The ‘Fathers of Amerika’ did not trust the Voting Public to make wise decisions in the electing of their Leader… the United States perpetuates this by keeping the CE.

This is not Democracy.

The Leadership of Amerika is in the Hands of a few hundred Politicians.

The Currency used in Amerika is in the hands of less than a few hundred – and they’re not even Politicians!

This means that Corporate Entities control the Economy which means they control YOU.

In 1916, three years after its inception, President Woodrow Wilson denounced the Federal Reserve System:

“I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world, no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.” ~Woodrow Wilson

It does not matter who is President. Things are still the same.

The Commander in Chief has no control.

He answers to a higher power and it sure the Hell isn’t God… though Baby Bush might want you to think it is.

Amerika is NOT a Democracy.

Quick Note:

I posted bostonpaul.wordpress at Facebook and got this response (Good Stuff):

Boston Paul

Boston Paul

UPDATE @ https://bostonpaul.wordpress.com/Why we spell Amerika with a K.

Stephanie Conboy
Stephanie Conboy

… and stop spelling america with a k please!
Deucalion Stone

Deucalion Stone

Why?
The use of K is more common than C!
Afrikaans: Amerika
Arabic: أمريكا
Belarusian: Амэрыка
Chinese (Traditional): 美國
Croatian: Amerika
Czech: Amerika
Danish: Amerika
Dutch: Amerika
Estonian: Ameerika
Filipino: Amerika
Finnish Amerikka
French: Amérique
Galician: América
German: Amerika
Greek: Αμερική Amerikí̱
Haitian: Creole Amerik
Hebrew: אמריקה
Hindi: अमेरिका amērikā
Hungarian: Amerikai
Icelandic: Ameríka
Indonesian: America
Irish: Meiriceá
Italian: America
Japanese: アメリカ amerika
Korean: 아메리카 amelika
Latvian: America
Lithuanian: Amerika
Macedonian: Америка Amerika
Malay: America
Maltese: Amerika
Norwegian: Amerika
Persian: امریکا
Polish: Ameryka
Portuguese: América
Romanian Americii
Russian: Америка Amerika
Serbian: Америка Amerika
Slovak: Americký
Slovenian: Amerika
Spanish: América
Swahili: Amerika
Swedish: America
Thai: America ประเทศสหรัฐอเมริกา
Turkish: America
Ukrainian: Америка Ameryka
Vietnamese: Mỹ Châu Mỹ
Welsh: America
Yiddish: אַמעריקע Amerike

Usage “C” ~ 15
Usage of “K” ~29

“K” wins the gold.
“C” falls in second for the silver
“Q” is third with the bronze.

Even the phonetics spelling of “America” use K
100% of the time:
ə-ˈmer-ə-kə,
ə’mer.i.kə
uh-mer-i-kuh
ə-měr’ĭ-kə

Your Thoughts?

Published in: on February 21, 2010 at 10:45 AM  Comments (7)  

Boston Paul AKA The Militant Hippi: Short History

Boston Paul

 

  • Boston Paul left home when he was 16.
  • Hitchhiked across Amerika when he was 17.
  • Joined the Military when he was 18.
    • He ’served’ in the elite 82nd Airborne Division
    • The 82nd Airborne is based out of Fort Bragg, North Carolina.

POST MILITARY

  • Began doing Police Work & Armed Security in the City of Boston (1990 -1995).
  • Joined the National Guard in 1990. Discharged in 1994.
  • Attended the University of Massachusetts (Boston) 1990 – 1994.
    • Majored in English & Philosophy.
    • Minored in East Asian Studies & Creative Writing.
  • Visited Taiwan for the first time during the Summer of 1993.
    • He was part of the Chinese Language Program at Donghai University.
  • 1994 return to Taiwan for another Summer.
  • Moved to Taiwan in January,1995 and never looked back.

Taiwan

  • 1995: Moved to Taiwan
    • Opened Boston English School, July the same year
    • By 1999: opened 3 English schools in the cities of Taichung, Zhuo-lan, Xinshe
    • Through Boston English School, he began editing/translating English/Chinese.
  • 1996 opened an Entertainment Company.
    • Was an Exotic Dancer until 2005.

English Editing:

His Clients include(d):

  • Various Taiwanese Machine Company Magazines: Articles/Manuals
  • Taiwanese High School/University Students: Essays/Reports
  • Assistant Curator of the Botany Department @ the Taichung Science Museum/PhD Paper on the Begonia Parvula
  • Horticulture/Botany Professor @Zhong-xin University
    • Eulophia graminea orchid for Plant Science Journal
    • Erycina pusilla orchid for PhD. Thesis
  • 2000: Began focusing on Music.
  • 2002: Started the Band ‘Native Space’
  • 2004: Began writing for The Taichung Voice Magazine
  • 2004: Opened The Refuge officially.
  • 2005: Became a Father and had his World rocked
  • 2006: Started the band ‘Militant Hippi’ after a book he is writing.
  • 2006: Co-founded The Basic Aid Project in Taiwan with Geoff North.

Other Tidbits:

Through the Refuge Community, Boston Paul has (with the help of many others) initiated the following Organizations/Events:

  • ~ LUVstock  (Annual)
  • ~Winter Solstice Celebration (Annual)
  • ~Spring Equinox Gathering (Annual)
  • ~Basic Aid Charity Event (Annual)
  • ~Basic Aid Charitable Organization (with Geoff North and others)
  • ~B.P. has  not only been a performer at PeaceFest but has also been an Admin for the PeaceFest (Annual).

Let’s get Personal

Massachusetts is considered to be a Liberal State (Massachusetts was the first state to approve Gay Marriages for example which I applaud but also find odd because of the prevalent Catholic Presence).
The Republican Protestant is the minority in good Ol’ Taxachusetts where I grew up.

My family is very Protestant & very Republican in a very Catholic/Democrat Environment.

What a dynamic.

I was part of the ‘Born Again’ Fundamentalist Evangelical Christian Movement (see John 3:16) as a child.

Yes, 15 years of Religiousness and a Personal Relationship with Jesus.

Not only did I go to Church on Sundays (Sunday Service, Sunday School, sometimes early service and evening service); but I also attended Youth Group during the Middle of the Week; participated in Weekly & Daily Bible Studies; had Daily Devotions; went to Bible Camp in the Summer in New Hampshire; went to various Retreats; and even participated in a couple Billy Graham Crusades (where I was a ‘counselor’ at 14 years old). If I had to do it over, I am not sure I would. But the learning experiences have been invaluable.  Concerning Religion, I’m more cynical & skeptical than ever.

Thank Christ (pun intended) for showing me how f*cked up it all is.

Truth is not found in One Book.

Truth is a Quest that requires an open mind, and seizing opportunities to obtain knowledge from everything & anything.

Truth comes in many Guises and often unexpectedly.

Question what you believe for this does 2 things:

Re-affirms what you already Believe

or

Causes you to Change or Modify what you Believe…

1LUV

You can Follow the Militant Hippi/Boston Paul on Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/BostonPaul

 

MONEY SLAVES

I popped by a friend of mine’s FB Wall and saw her status.

The word BANK popped out of the screen and smacked me on the retinas.

The thread was a discussion between American Moms concerning money.

It was interesting to read what they felt.

Here is how the short chat went down (My Commentary at the end):

Christine Peterson: Watched PBS Frontline (bank cards) late last night about banks. They follow the laws but twist it into their own form. They are making all of their money off of the poor; people living paycheck to paycheck. I remember Senator Kennedy trying to pass legislation on this but the Republicans rejecting it. Everyone should watch this that has ever had a bank fee.

Christine Peterson: Now I know why they have to keep the poor..poor so the rich can stay rich. Shameful
Deborah Bennett
Deborah Bennett: VERY SHAMEFUL…
Stephanie Conboy
Stephanie Conboy: It’s required.  If every one was rich who would the rich help to keep them humble? Quite frankly, I enjoy being poor! It gives me room to improve, rich folk have no where but down to go!  I would imagine that they live there lives in fear as well; fear of losing everything they have. I have nothing to lose, so no fear! I dont have to sit around protecting every thing I have, so I’m free!
Christine Peterson
Christine Peterson: But your also subject to bank “courtesy fees” higher interest rates and fines that penalize you for being poor…I for one don’t like to be suppressed.
Karyn Swanson
Karyn Swanson: My bank has no fees as long as we have direct deposit, my kids savings accounts have none because their kids, my mother’s checking account has no fee because she’s over 65. I get an atm fee when I use one of the large banks like TD North. I have never had a problem with fees when it comes to local smaller banks like Bank of Cape Cod or Cape Cod Five where Eric has had an acct since he was 5 y/o.   I almost opened another account at one of the big banks a few years ago and they wanted to charge a stupid fee to go to a live teller. I do understand charging higher interest rates for people with bad credit, you get bad credit by not paying your bills not just because your poor.
Christine Peterson
Christine Peterson: Well generally poor people have poor credit because they cant afford to pay their bills!   They should be paying the same fee so that they can have a fighting chance to make it in this messed up economy. Or the banks should’nt be issuing them cards with 30% interest just to take advantage.
Karyn Swanson
Karyn Swanson: Bull^&*(. You don’t have to be “rich” to have good credit. In my 20s, I had a car loan and ran up my credit card for things I thought “I should have”. I learned my lesson. I slowly paid off the balance and ended up with excellent credit. My credit cards offer 20 something% interest but I don’t charge more than I can pay off at the end of the month. People who get 30% interest rates get them because of irresponsibility not because their poor.
Boston Paul
Boston Paul: This is just one facet of The Bank…

Think about what your dollar is backed by and then let’s take this Discussion from there.

😉

Allison Routhier
Allison Routhier: I have had bank fees and Teddy was quite alive and Senator at that time…
Christine Peterson
Christine Peterson: Paul I was amazed at what I watched and how they admitted twisting the law.
Boston Paul
Boston Paul: Indeed Christine, the law is easily manipulated. The paper money is also easily manipulated. If we can think about what $ is actually backed by, we can think about ways to protect ourselves.  Knowledge is Power.

What is your dollar backed by?

Christine Peterson
Christine Peterson: I’m assuming nothing.
Boston Paul
Boston Paul: It must be backed by something. It was gold until 1971 or so. Now it is not.

If it is backed by gold, the dollar will stay pretty much the same in value.

If it is backed by something abstract, then it can be easily manipulated.

Think about it.

Laura Peterson: I don’t trust people & especially banks. I keep cash hidden in a secret location & manipulate the system my own way.
Stephanie Conboy
Stephanie Conboy: Our money is backed by China and nothing else.  Paul what is the money backed by in Taiwan? How is the economy crunch there?  How has the American sinking economy affected Taiwan?
Christine Peterson
Christine Peterson: Paul…I’m thinking the stock market??
Boston Paul
Boston Paul: Stephanie is in the ball park.
Stephanie Conboy
Stephanie Conboy: I’m always at the ball park!

Boston Paul

Greetings Ladies, my apologies for the delay.

Stephanie is in the ball park because your Money is not backed by anything but Labor. China’s major resource (for now) is cheap Labor.  Fiat money which is what the Corporate Bank issues (google: fiat currency) can be manipulated by Financial Corporations like The Federal Reserve Bank (FED). The FED is a private bank partnered with the government.

The FED is a Private Institution that controls the American Dollar. The Federal Reserve Bank is about as Federal as Federal Express.

One can easily observe logically how the FED is not governmental (though partnered with the GOV):

First, they have a CEO. Government entities do not have a CEO.

Second, the GOV borrows money from the FED. How does an entity borrow from itself then?

It doesn’t.

I need 20,ooo dollars to buy a car. I’ll lend it to myself and then pay myself back with interest!

Also, research why the GOV borrows money from the FED in the first place.

Now let’s talk about the money the FED makes.

What is Money backed by? It is backed by NOTHING but your Labor. And since many people use credit cards, money = debt.

Let’s Clarify:

LABOR: If the average person (Pat) digs a hole for an hour, Pat will be spending about the same amount of energy (calories burned or Labor) as the rest of us.  We can probably agree that as Humans, on average, we expend the same amount of energy/calories burned/LABOR on specific tasks and have so since our Species climbed down from the trees.

TIME: An hour doesn’t change at all. I’m sure a PhD in Physics can tell you about the minute changes in Time over the last few billion years, but for us, an hour is an hour and has always been so, even when it seems to speed by when you’re having fun.

Now this brings us to our Basic Needs.

We have 2 Basic Needs:

Food & Shelter.

Right up until the Industrial Revolution and arguably the end of World War II (with the exception of Slaves & modern day slaves), our Species through-out the year spent on average just a few hours a day obtaining these needs.

Compare that to now where the average person spends over 10 hours a day focused solely on their jobs.

The fact that money can be made out of thin air means that they can make as much or as little of this paper moneyas they want.

This is the Trap.

The FED makes a lot of Paper Money, then everyone has it, the economy is ‘good’ and the Massses often spend more than they should and get themselves into Debt.

The FED stops making Paper Money, then everyone struggles, finds it difficult to pay back their outstanding debts AND the value of your Labor goes down.

So when Pat digs a hole for 10 bucks an hour, Pat’s labor & time are the same, but that 10 bucks is manipulated.

I remember when a nickel could buy a tank of gas! ~ Grandad

This makes Pat a Slave to the System… and a whole bunch of other people you know… 😉

The trick is that you spend freely because you’re financially secure and deserve the Good Life. You borrow freely because you have that secure feeling that you will be able to pay it off in the future.

People are now finding out that there is something wrong in the Land of Milk & Funny Money.

You put your money into a bank where they use your savings for other investments. They throw you a bone with 3% interest (a bone doesn’t have much meat on it, does it?) while they are making huge amounts off your dollar. And coming up with devious plans to make even more.

So if you have 1000 in the bank, the bank will make about 9000 (this is a conservative estimate) off your money. It’s called Fractional Banking… check it out.

We won’t even get into what Corporate Banks invest in that aid in the destruction & demise of our Planet.

This was a quick Brainstorming Blurb and will be updated soon.

Political Dialogue: What is a TERRORIST?

What is a TERRORIST?

The word Terrorist is thrown around the English Lexicon without any regard to its actual meaning.

This Question was poised to get a feeling of what People are thinking.

Who listens to the Rhetoric spewed  out by the Corporate Media? 

The Terrorist is the New Enemy.

And it is Genius. Really.

Countries through-out History have always had a well-defined enemy until The Terrorist was invented.

Now the Terrorist could be your quiet neighbor, the shifty eyed gas attendant, the hippie looking Music Student.

The Communist Scare of the 50s has been perfected and the average American Joe & Jane believe the Hype. 

Go to MilitaryNewsNetwork.com and check em’ out.

I do.

A pity we are surrounded by Sheep.

Sheep with Sharp Teeth. 

See how others define Terrorist: 

 
 
Tobie Openshaw
A person who uses terror, violence and the threat of violence to achieve political or religious aims.
Also see: FREEDOM FIGHTER
 
 
 
 
Julian Bush
fat women in tight clothes, terrifying
 
 
 
Sue Howard
what’s wrong with fat women in tight clothes? Some of us find them comfortable. I’ve even been known to rock the spandex.
 
 
Tobie Openshaw
Hmm no, ‘ist” is just someone who does something. Violinist, lobbyist, librocubiculirist…
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Sara Kennedy Bester
someone who can’t see truth… so according to any book i’ve read from people who have the abilities see truth, a very very large population of the earth.
 
 
Tobie Openshaw
And in WWII the allies used fear, intimidation, and violence to achieve their goals of peace. I think by definition a terrorist is not part of a state security system. Anwyay … ’tis a can of worms, albeit an interesting one, that you have opened.
 
Sue Howard
does this make me a double terrorist?
 
 
Mars Alexandre
Yaaaaaa…. I want popcorn with butter and salt , getting cappuccino now , anybody?
There are different kinds of terror though…
Fear=Somebody sticks an umbrella up your arse…
Terror= Someone opens the umbrella!!!!
 
 
Christian Kohli
It’s certainly not the Afghan warlords that deal in opium with the right banks and interests apparently

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091028/ts_nm/us_afghanistan_usa_cia

 
Tobie Openshaw
and Sarah, if you want to bring “truth” into it, that’s an entirely diifferent can of worms you’re opening. There is no such thing as truth. When anyone says “I have found the TRUTH” what they mean is “I have found a truth that sounds pretty ok to me” The Christian, Buddhist, and Muslim each having exactly the same amount (i.e. zero) of proof that their belief system represents the “truth”. The only unassailable truth is that 2+2=4 and there are some theoretical mathematicians who will even parse that for you.
 
 
Jeffree Pike
people who create or incite terror/death/destruction…wacked out souls who blow themselves up on a city bus or vegetable market(& the religious nuts who encourage them)..also of course military officers who sit in their techno-seats in Nevada while controling pilotless ‘terminator’ drones which create terror from the skies in remote villages in Pakistan…(& the politicans/generals who allow it)..
 
 
Mars Alexandre
“A person who uses terror, violence and the threat of violence to achieve POLITICAL or religious aims.”
“a terrorist is someone who believes that the use of fear, intimidation, and violence is an acceptable means to achieve a certain goal.”
“fat women in tight clothes”
First two … ok I agree because is such a sanguinary son of a bitch …
but Gorge Bush is not fat and I have never seen that bitch in tight clothes.
 
 
Landis Shook
A person that raises Terriers?
 
Sue Howard
Mars-LOL…I knew I liked you. George Bush. Fucking funny.
 
 
Thomas Steenson
If I say “PURPLE HAIRY BANANAS!!”, and you break down and scream in absolute terror… I AM not a terrorist.

What makes a LAW lawful????

 
Laura Halifax McKenzie
 
 
Tobie Openshaw
a law is made lawful by consent of the people to whom the law applies
 
 
Francisco Jose Ramos
The Pope!!!! and the Vaticano ….we must bomb them….and maybe after that the sky too…..hahahaha
 
 
Sue Howard
How did the nobles become nobles in the first place, eh? They took it. They took it at the tip of a sword.
 
 
James Murray
Main Entry: ter·ror·ism
Pronunciation: \ˈter-ər-ˌi-zəm\
Function: noun
Date: 1795
: the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion.
— ter·ror·ist \-ər-ist\ adjective or noun
— ter·ror·is·tic \ˌter-ər-ˈis-tik\ adjective
 
 
Boston Paul
Damn James, then I was a Terrorist when I was in the Amerikan Military.
 
 
 
Francisco Jose Ramos
WE guess Boston!! you must find god….he will forgive you hahaha…..
 
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Sue Howard
Wow, Paul…we’re batting a thousand here aren’t we? lol
 
 
Boston Paul
Francisco, I was fighting for God. I was a Repulican Protestant then after all.

Back then the Communist was the Enemy.

Perhaps I should beg for Allah’s forgiveness.

What do you mean Sue? (And when we meet again someday Sue, we should both wear our spandex…)

;-0)

Boston Paul
REPOSTED from below:
U.S. Code Title 18, Section 2331

The US Government says that Terrorism is:
(1) the term “international terrorism” means activities that—
(A) involve violent acts or acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State, or that would be a criminal violation if committed within the jurisdiction of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended—
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
(C) occur primarily outside the territorial jurisdiction of the United States, or transcend national boundaries in terms of the means by which they are accomplished, the persons they appear intended to intimidate or coerce, or the locale in which their perpetrators operate or seek asylum;
(2) the term “national of the United States” has the meaning given such term in section 101(a)(22) of the Immigration and Nationality Act;
(3) the term “person” means any individual or entity capable of holding a legal or beneficial interest in property;
(4) the term “act of war” means any act occurring in the course of—
(A) declared war;
(B) armed conflict, whether or not war has been declared, between two or more nations; or
(C) armed conflict between military forces of any origin; and
(5) the term “domestic terrorism” means activities that—
(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended—
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/usc_sec_18_00002331—-000-.html

 
Sean Luo
 
 
 
 
William Walsh
depends who writes the history
 
 
 
Thomas Steenson
Tobie; only corporate policy (statues and acts) can be claimed lawful by the consent of the people to whom the law applies. Hence “police” enforce with monopolized violence.
But that does not make them lawful laws.
The LAW is absolute, and is liberty itself. It applies to everyone.
Any policy which violates the inherent and unalienable rights of the individual is no law at all, but tyranny and crime against the populace (stealing, breaking, killing).
GENOCIDE
 
 
Thomas Steenson
Francisco; Paul has not found God yet.
BUT JUST WAIT UNTIL HE DOES!

The he will finally know for certain I AM walking with him.

 
 
Sue Howard
Paul and I found god quite some time ago, and didn’t exactly agree with what his fan club had to say. We grew up together.
 
 
OStuart Wilson
Obama is a Terrorist!
 
 
Stuart Wilson
Check out: The Obama Deception, a film by Alex Jones! Scary stuff…
 
 
 
Sue Howard
Ugh, here we go with the Obama crap.
 
 
 
Dwayne Young
I believe Mr William Walsh said it best earlier above…
“depends who rights history.” Thats it plain and simple.
Who ever wins the war or is in control writes history.
His story….
 
 
Graham Sills
Obama totally wore spandex. I Think it was when he went to all those Islam schools in indonesia.
 
 
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Michael T. Lane
terrorist is a word created to invoke fear and minimize thought about complex situations. As noted above, freedom fighter or non-lateral combatant are other words that have been used to describe the same person performing the same action.

more and more these days, it seems, the word terrorist is replacing the word criminal, too. It’s evolving in its scope. Soon, you won’t need to think about anything. We’ll know just who the terrorists are, be they political insurgents, drug peddlers, bank robbers or jaywalkers.

 
 
Roger Smith
It’s just a recycled buzz word used to polarize opinions to suit nefarious political ends. “By it’s literal definition….it follows that The United States is the leading terrorist state” – Chomsky

Go Venus Project!

 
 
Chris Ecker
It’s what happens when you fall of your scooter and land on your hand!
 
 
Brian Michael Fall
Terror is a long journey in a small truck in very very cold weather with a man who just ate a great deal of blue cheese and sardines. Ergo, he is a terrorist.
 
 
 
Hill Rodney
Sean, Chomsky does it again. Good stuff.
 
 
 
Maako Ishikawa
A terrorist is some one who doesn’t think like us and deserves to die because of thinking wrong..
 
 
 
Roland Le Lopez
ter?ror?ist (ter’er-ist) n. 1. One who engages in acts or an act of terrorism.
2. One who leads an armed group that kills civilians as a means of political intimidation — unless he terrorizes Haitians while on the CIA-payroll, as did 1990s death squad leader Emmanuel Constant, in which case the U.S. refuses to extradite him to Haiti, even after Sept. 11, 2001.

3. One who targets civilian airliners and ships — unless he blows up a Cuban civilian airliner, killing 73 people, and fires at a Polish freighter, like Orlando Bosch, in which case he is coddled and paroled by the Bush Justice Department in 1990, and his extradition is blocked.
4. One who leads a group that engages in kidnapping and murder — unless the victims are Hondurans attacked by CIA-backed death squad Battalion 316, in which case Battalion architect Gustavo Alvarez becomes a Pentagon consultant, while the then-ambassador to Honduras who downplayed the terror, John Negroponte, is appointed U.S. ambassador to the United Nations days after Sept. 11.

5. One who uses rape and murder for political purposes — unless the victims are four U.S. church women sexually assaulted and killed in 1980 by members of El Salvador?s U.S.-backed military, in which case excuses and distortions pour forth from then-U.N. Ambassador Jeane Kirkpatrick (?these nuns were not just nuns; they were also political activists?) and Secretary of State Al Haig (the nuns ?may have tried to run a roadblock?).

6. One who designates civilians as ?soft targets? to be attacked in the cause of political transformation — unless the targets are Nicaraguans killed by Contra guerrillas armed and directed by the U.S who, according to Human Rights Watch, ?systematically engage in violent abuses?so prevalent that these may be said to be their principal means of waging war.?

7. One who facilitates a massacre of civilians — unless the victims are 900 Palestinians shot and hacked to death in the Sabra and Shatila camps by Lebanese Christian militia as Israeli soldiers stood guard, in which case Israel?s then-Defense Minster (now Prime Minister) Ariel Sharon remains a U.S. ?War on Terrorism? ally after being censured as indirectly responsible for the massacre by an Israeli commission of inquiry.

 
Ryan J. Barber
A freedom fighter by another name.
 
 
Sammy Hoffa
I didn’t read all 46 comments… but I would have to say the George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and the founding fathers were Terrorists to England at one point. I figure these days anyone going against “the rulers” is a terrorist.
As far as some people are concerned free thinkers that organize in any way are terrorists.
If not now then soon.
 
 
James Tinker
Ronald McDonald – definitely a terrorist.
 
 
 
Marcus Van
I am.
 
 
Above were comments left Oct 2009. I have ressurected this Question to see what the rest of you think. Looking forward to your responses.
1LUV

REPOST: Google to work with NSA?

Greetings!

A buddy of mine sent me this link concerning the possibility that Google might team up with the NSA.

For those of you who are not sure what the NSA is or what they do, NSA (besides standing for National Sheriff’s Association) is the National Security Agency. 

Here’s a quick blurb about the NSA from wiki:

The NSA warrantless surveillance controversy concerns surveillance of persons within the United States incident to the collection of foreign intelligence by the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) as part of the war on terror. Under this program, referred to by the Bush administration as the “terrorist surveillance program”,[1] part of the broader President’s Surveillance Program, the NSA is authorized by executive order to monitor phone calls, e-mails, Internet activity, text messaging, and other communication involving any party believed by the NSA to be outside the U.S., even if the other end of the communication lies within the U.S., without warrants  (I added the bold, red italics).

The exact scope of the program is not known, but the NSA is or was provided total, unsupervised access to all fiber-optic communications going between some of the nation’s major telecommunication companies’ major interconnect locations, including phone conversations, email, web browsing, and corporate private network traffic. [3]. Critics stated that such “domestic” intercepts required FISC authorization under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.[2] The Bush administration maintained that the authorized intercepts are not domestic but rather foreign intelligence integral to the conduct of war and that the warrant requirements of FISA were implicitly superseded by the subsequent passage of the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Terrorists (AUMF).[3] FISA makes it illegal to intentionally engage in electronic surveillance under appearance of an official act or to disclose or use information obtained by electronic surveillance under appearance of an official act knowing that it was not authorized by statute; this is punishable with a fine of up to $10,000 or up to five years in prison, or both.[4] In addition, the Wiretap Act prohibits any person from illegally intercepting, disclosing, using or divulging phone calls or electronic communications; this is punishable with a fine or up to five years in prison, or both.[5]

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales confirmed the existence of the program, first reported in a December 16, 2005 article in The New York Times.[6][7] The Times had posted the exclusive story on their website the night before, after learning that the Bush administration was considering seeking a Pentagon-Papers-style court injunction to block its publication.[8] Critics of The Times have openly alleged that executive editor Bill Keller had knowingly withheld the story from publication since before the 2004 Presidential election, and that the story that was ultimately first published by The Times was essentially the same one that reporters James Risen and Eric Lichtblau had first submitted at that time.[9] In a December 2008 interview with Newsweek, former Justice Department employee Thomas Tamm revealed himself to be the initial whistle-blower to The Times.[10]

Gonzales stated that the program authorizes warrantless intercepts where the government “has a reasonable basis to conclude that one party to the communication is a member of al Qaeda, affiliated with al Qaeda, or a member of an organization affiliated with al Qaeda, or working in support of al Qaeda.” and that one party to the conversation is “outside of the United States”.[11] The revelation raised immediate concern among elected officials, civil right activists, legal scholars and the public at large about the legality and constitutionality of the program and the potential for abuse. Since then, the controversy[12] has expanded to include the press’s role in exposing a classified program, the role and responsibility of Congress in its executive oversight function and the scope and extent of Presidential powers under Article II of the Constitution.

Above is what the NSA is and what they are capable of in a nutshell.

So let’s get this straight: The NSA is going to be working with Google to help prevent Hacking?

Google, a nongovernmental entity, a private enterprise, is soliciting a Government Agency to help them with their security issues? Does anyone see anything wrong with this picture?

Get me a cup of Conflict and throw some Interest in there. 

Read the news blurb below and leave your thoughts.

 

In wake of hack, Google negotiating cooperation with the NSA

By John Timmer | Last updated February 4, 2010 3:05 PM
In January, Google went public with news that some of its systems had been hacked, along with those of a number of US-based companies. The attacks had targeted both accounts maintained by political activists and commercial code, and Google pointed the finger straight at China, vowing to change its entire approach to business in that country. But a report now suggests that the company is also looking to beef up its internal defenses to prevent a repeat of the attacks.

The Washington Post is reporting that Google has started negotiations with the US National Security Agency about a collaborative effort to analyze the attack and figure out how best to prevent a recurrence. The Post is citing confidential sources, as the deal isn’t final and, even if it were, it’s unlikely that Google would seek to publicize it.

For starters, both organizations have already been the target of many complaints by privacy advocates, the NSA for its domestic surveillance efforts, Google for its data retention policies. The combination of the two would clearly make the advocates far more uneasy, and might help them make their case with the wider public. Meanwhile, as the report notes, private companies have often been loath to share information about their proprietary systems with the government for a variety of reasons.

That may explain why the negotiations have been going slowly, as the NSA would clearly need access to and understanding of Google’s infrastructure in order to fully evaluate the attacks and future risks. And that’s precisely the sort of proprietary information that Google is presumably reluctant to provide anyone with—even a highly secretive organization like the NSA

 

http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2010/02/in-wake-of-hack-google-negotiating-cooperation-with-the-nsa.ars

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Is God Dead?

Here is one from the archives. It is a short but interesting discussion concerning the Death of God and who may have killed him/her.

I read a book called the History of God by Karen Armstrong a few years back. I thought it was good. She wrote about the concept of the Jewish/Christian/Muslim God and where this God came from and how this God has changed over a few thousand years.  

Her recent writings however, I’m not so sure about.

Our Species has more or less killed the concept of God with the Sword of Science.

But try telling that to the millions of Fundamental Christians living in Amerika.

Your Thoughts? 

She takes a series of statements about god that she says need rethinking, but her thinking is a complete mess.
 
 
Artsees Diner
Interesting concept. If God is dead, then a whole lot of nay-sayers will have to admit that He at one time was very much alive, right? Also, who in the world killed Him then, and can we bring them to trial? After all murder is murder, and if He is dead, then that would explain why there is such a huge void in humanity, after all it is believed that He resides in those who believe…
 
 
Artsees Diner
Quite frankly, nonbelievers need to just give it a rest, and apologetics need to give up trying to convince humanity one way or another, especially nonbelievers. God lives in those who believe, and those who don’t well, they don’t, maybe he doesn’t. I am not sure why those who don’t believe care so much about the concept of a supreme being. Why are non believers so obsessed? Obviously the concept of a supreme being has always and more than likely will be around for as long as we are living and breathing, right? Also, as far as I can see, read, no matter whether you are a fundamentalist, or an atheist activist, neither has any real substance to stand on, so therefore it Armstrong and Dawkins and the likes of them are no different then me right now, we all want to have our day in court. Man makes meaing, whether it is language, mathematics, science, it is all man made, minus believing or attached meaning does anything really exist?
 
 
Cousin Avi
Math is man made?
Ummm…no.
 
 
Dwayne Young
Well put there.God is what you make him/her/it to be.God is different to everyone of us and so is the relationship you have with God,if you even have one….
“Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.” Marcus Auerlius
 
 
Niwa Maibut
If this author believes someone will belive her thoughts and ideas ? then, there must be a god , can we drop this ? None can prove whether god exists or not, doesn’t mean that having the conpect of God is not alive !
 
 
Artsees Diner
the name and symbols given to explain mathematical equations is as man made as the language that you speak, the code that is used in computing, that is unless you want to claim it divinely inspired.  Niwa, amen…I am perplexed as to why there is a blasphemy movement by the atheists…how can you denounce that which does not exist, nor is believed for one, secondly, if the believer believes then believe, and through your good works those around you will want to know what secrets you hold towards a joy-filled life.
 
 
Cousin Avi
The language we use to represent math is man made, of course. We also use it to represent ocean currents and the orbits of planets. Are THOSE man made? There is a distinction between the LANGUAGE and the reality it is used to represent.
As for your wishy washy notion that god lives in the hearts of believers, what utter tripe.
What would you think of a friend who announced that he was so happy because he was destined to marry Angelina Jolie? The usefulness of this belief, or the idea that it makes him happy, is irrelevant against the falsity of the claim, yet this is the kind of argument defenders of religion always make.
There is no evidence for any god claims. To assert that such claims are true because people believe them is blithering foolishness. I suppose you’re prepared to grant that unicorns and leprechauns exist for those who believe in them.
 
 
 
Sara Kennedy Bester
I dig Karen Armstrong.
 
 
 
Bad Andy
religion bores me
 
 
 
Paul Farrar
He keeps me jammin-(Good Cousin)….. God isnt a being, but a force that you feel amoungst you… If you can go with that, then you are doing good.. 🙂 Is he dead? That is up to everyone to believe in thier own minds…. I believe in an inner self that believes what is GOD… When I pray, I talk to my inner mind, and hope that it might go further…( Was there really a JESUS???) I think there was,,, but was there a guy who could make blind people see? Hell NO!! Jesus was a man, who people loved to follow. His belief made people feel good…He made alot of people feel like they meant something, and that all that mattered….Was he really hung on a cross  (maybe—in my eyes NO)?  Was he taken from his grave on Easter? ( No. he was never there to start.)  From the Start, was there a Jesus~~~ Prob., and if there was , he died a happy man.  Thinkin about someone in his inner self that was none other than__(GOD)(your 1st topic).. Love yah cousin (BP)… 😉
 
Is God dead???? I think not… As long as your mind is still functioning,,,,,God is very alive… 😉
 
 
 
Cousin Avi
@ Paul
Redefining the term into some personal force within (or, as Spinoza said, the great natural order of everything), simply ignores the issue.
Belief in an interventionist, omnipotent, omniscient “god” (the foundation of the big three monos) is the question. The actions and demands of the faithful not insignificant consequences thereof. And still, your personal perception notwithstanding, there’s no more evidence for the truth of your claims than for theirs.
You are certainly free to believe as you wish. Sadly, the faithful seem determined to assert (despite the total lack of evidence) that they’re right, and to inflict their ideas on the rest of us via public policy (which is intolerable).
You would appear to make little distinction between prayer and meditation, and I have nothing against the inner-self or the transcendent. But when one starts to invoke the father, son and holy spirit, condemn others to hell, hold forth on morality based on the scribblings of Bronze Age sheep herders, deny civil rights to large segments of the population, attempt to restrict access to legal medical procedures (not to mention a laundry list of egregious criminal behaviour), based on a Jesus myth for which there is no evidence outside of the book they present as both premise and conclusion, we are then dealing with an animal very different than “praying to one’s inner mind”.
 
 
Michael T. Lane
If God was dead, then that wouldn’t be God. The word may be truth or fiction, but there is a standard to which anything one might call God would have to apply. God with a capital G is omnipotent, so it doesn’t die. But what if it killed itself? Can an omnipotent creature end itself? If it can’t then it isn’t omnipotent. But if it does, then it is finite and limited.

Language is limited in its ability to speak of anything singular. The multiplicity of meanings within an entire language are what give words their specific meanings.
So using language to speak or ponder an entity claimed to be One and with no other is fruitless. It is outside language’s scope. Just as well use a hammer to twist in a screw.

The Tao Te Ching says on page one….the Tao that can be spoken is not the Tao. I tend to agree. Whether its Ultimate Truth or the biggest lie ever conceived, either way, talking about it does nothing. Well, it does start fights pretty good.

Leon Rene LaPointe
Last time I checked I was doing quite fine thankyou.
 
 
 
Cousin Avi
I don’t think the problem is language, it’s competing conceptions.
The term omnipotent doesn’t necessarily include the idea of eternal – in fact, there’s a particular theological debate (beyond WHAT properties something called “god” might/must possess) about whether or not god exists beyond the space/time of THIS universe. For example, if the “multiverse” implied by string theory turned out to be fact, would god be the god of all universes, or just this one…and if so, how can one call it “eternal” in the absence of a concept of “time”?
Beyond that, if you’re going to say something like “God was always there and will always be there,” the why not simply say “The universe was always there,” or, “Life was always there,” and be done with it. Occam’s Razor demands that that you not multiply terms unnecessarily.
Zen koans like, “Can an omnipotent god make a rock so heavy even he cannot lift it” do not advance the argument.
The only sane response to those who claim there is a god is, “Fine. Show me the evidence.”
 
 
 
Leon Rene LaPointe
 
 
 
Cousin Avi
Nice link. Misleading title, though. The only people who insist that the universe came from nothing are creationists.
The odd thing is that they don’t seem to understand the irony of their argument. While insisting that science says “Everything came from nothing” (which is not at all what science says), THEY contend that the universe was poofed into existence by an act of omnipotent will.
Of course, inherent contradiction never stopped them before…
 
 
Boston Paul
Thank you all for the posts. Very good points C. Avi.

I would like to read some kind of solid evidence (links, book titles – not the Bible – ETC) from Christians refuting what Cousin Avi has posted.

1LUV

Brian Michael Fall
The concept of a “supreme being” as mentioned earlier, has been around for a very long time indeed. This does not make it true nor does it prove that one exists. People have also believed for a very long time that chicken feet and four-leaved clovers bring one good luck. Currently, in some parts of the world, it does one well to eat the body parts of an albino. Does that make it true? This concept developed out of an inability to explain a vast many things, including, for example, the way the ocean is drawn back a very significant amount before the arrival of a tidal wave. Well, I guess it must have been the power of god chanelled through Moses, ’cause I can’t think of anything else. Man continues to fail to “pluck the apple”, if you will, and simply evolve into a more intelligent species which refuses to ignore fact and act accordingly to it. The future is unknown and the unknown is terrifying to many and fear is powerful, and evolution is the future. We must be very brave to move forward. Don’t let others scare you with their bullshit. There is no heaven. There is no hell. You will not be rewarded or punished for any kind of life you’ve led. Don’t be afraid to change your mind. Don’t be afraid to admit that something you believe might be wrong. Don’t be afraid of the truth because it will never be what you want it to be no matter how hard you pray or want.
 
 
 
Boston Paul
Well said Brian.
 
 
 
Cousin Avi
I think you’re out of luck, BP. Christians point to scripture. The rest of it leaves them in the blocks.

Non-Compos-Mentis

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…and here I sat once long ago, when the cold bit my cheeks & fingers

…and I bounced my leg up & down to keep my toes from falling off

…and I thought of you to keep from going crazy

…and then a Voice from within a Soul whispered in your ear

…and there you were in front of me, laughing like you used to do

…and I smiled, too

…and I smiled and smiled and stared up at the sky and kept looking until you were gone

…and the sound of your Voice lingered a moment and…

 
vanished like a ufo…

 
or a Dark Secret…

 

Gypsi 

AKA  Boston Paul

Taichung, Taiwan

 2003

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SHORT STORY:David & Boston Paul Chat about $ & the Amerikan Bank Bailout.

David and Boston Paul were sitting in their chairs, each in front of their own Computer on opposite sides of the Planet.

Paul was drinking a cup of very strong Herbal Tea with his Breakfast and David was sipping a whiskey on the rocks.

As their beverages worked their Speedy Magic and neurons began dancing in each of their brains;  their whimsical conversation turned from updates on Family, recent elections and news of high school friends to the subject of Money…

Here is how the chat went down…

David: – wipes up a bit of  condensation on his desk from the whiskey glass: Sunday there already?

Boston Paul: Yawning: Sunday AM, indeed.

David: Did you drink last night? How’s the head?

Boston Paul: I didn’t drink too much last night. I fell asleep early trying to get my son to sleep. I missed my buddy’s house-warming party … oops. What are you up to? Must be 9PM there, eh?

David: I’m just winding down, myself.  Helped my brother Pete tile his bathroom floor. Then I helped another buddy put in a new bay window and a back door, too.

Boston Paul: Right on… you are just the Little Helper!

David: I’ve been going for 12 hours! Slowing down now and finally relaxing.

Boston Paul: You should move to Taiwan, I could use your help & expertise as well!

David: They do it for me, too. It’s all Payback. We call it a Day for a Day.

Boston Paul: Aaahhh, there it is. I like Payback in the form of NON-monetary trade 😉

David: I hear you. It’s always a good thing.

Boston Paul: Especially when you realize the paper currency used in trade has no real value.

David: My friend just turned me on to a new song by The Tea Party called Paint it Black.  It’s a Rolling Stones cover.  This economy is sucking so bad right now.

Boston Paul: It will continue to suck, Ol’ Chum. The Amerikan government has no control of its Monetary System.

David: True! I guess you know we got a new Prez.

Boston Paul: New Man same BS though! He is not much different from McSame (McCain).

David: Its our only hope now –  always so much BS. McSame – LOL I never heard that one. Funny. Ultimately, they’re all the same.

Boston Paul: The only difference between both of them is the one is 1/2 Black and the other is 1/2 Retarded & White. One is Young & the other is Ancient.

David: LOL

Boston Paul: Neither of them support taking Troops out of Iraq. Both of them support the Bailout Plan for the banks – The Banks that f*cked it all up in the first place, by the way 😉

David: Oh, I know!

Boston Paul: So now YOU, my brother &  friend, have to bail out the banks and save them from their f*ckup – which is interesting because what most people do not realize is that the Federal Reserve Bank is NOT a government entity. It is a Private Bank in partnership with the Government (It is still early, I’m typing slow, be patient with me).  The Federal Reserve Bank (FED) is about as governmental as Federal Express.  You know the History of Paper Money, right bro?

David: Probably not as well as you. But I’m sure you’re going to tell me. Ha ha.

Boston Paul: I am going to tell you as fast as my delicate little fag* fingers can type.  In 1913, The FED took Power/Control of the Money Supply in Amerika. The US Gov now has to borrow money from the FED (if it was a real Government Agency, how could it borrow money from itself and then pay itself back with interest?). The History of it goes basically like this: You had some gold, but it was too dangerous or cumbersome to carry it around, so you would bring it to a ‘safe house’ (we now call them Banks).  They would give you a receipt letting you know how much you deposited.  To make a long story short, People started using these receipts instead of money because of convenience. Why travel 100 miles on Horseback to take out a few grams of gold out to pay a Debt, when the receipt has the same value?

David: Fag fingers doing well.

Boston Paul: lol

David: It all makes perfect sense.

Boston Paul: The banks realized that no one was trading in their receipts for Gold and Paper Money and subsequently modern banking was born.  That’s when they started lending out Paper (OUR money), but it was always backed by gold.  We have been off the gold system a long time now (since 1971) and this is where it gets interesting.  Inflation and devaluation of money are intentional. This is how they control the Masses.

David: I can see that happening very easily.

Boston Paul: So the government is going to borrow money from the FED so they can start  bail out the banks.

David: …and with my money.

Boston Paul: The FED is going to go to their Printer and PRINT this money (which is backed by nothing) and lend it to the Government at interest.

David: It’s brilliant, isn’t it?

Boston Paul: It is. The Value comes in form of Debt. Debt is value to them because if you are in Debt, then you are their Slave.

David:  Interesting thought. It seems it’s hard not to be a slave.

Boston Paul:  This is madness! They are trying to pay off this debt WITH MORE DEBT.

David: That can only lead to a dead-end.

Boston Paul: Indeed! Or a total crash of the market which is what is happening now.

David: A very deep black hole that nothing can get out of. I’m feeling that now.

Boston Paul: This loan that Obama is supporting only prolongs the Inevitable.

David: And what do you say that is? Complete collapse?

Boston Paul: It could very well be. My advice to you Brother Love, is to quietly take your money out of the bank and invest it in commodities, or gold. Except you really can’t eat gold or use it for much of anything practical.

David: Not much left right now… these are tough times.

Boston Paul: There is not a lot Americans can do about it unless they Unite… Bush & Cohorts have taken away all your rights with the Patriot Act.

David: That is good advice. Bush’s Cohorts are probably reading this right now.

Boston Paul: It’s all good.

David: Yes it is good. Nice chat. Your hands must be killing you. Good talking. I really miss our conversations.

Boston Paul: I miss it too, bro. Tell everyone hello.

David: You too.  Have a great Sunday!

Boston Paul: Have a great Saturday night! I wish I was there.  Peace & Love…

David: Out for now…

* Fag: The term has additional meanings in British English, where “faggot” traditionally means a bundle of sticks and faggots are a kind of meatball. In British English, “fag” is common slang for a cigarette or for hard work. In some UK public schools, fagging was the name given to the practice where a younger boy (a “fag”) acted as an unpaid servant for an older boy.

Government Control of Education is Dangerous

Government Control of Education is Dangerous

 

Are Learning and Education the same? Does a child learn better in a Natural Environment or in a Public Institution? 
  
What are the implications of Public Education, HomeSchooling, Community Learning and other forms of Intellectual Development?
 
This will be updated soon. But in the meantime, take a look at how people feel about this statement. 
  
  
 
Chase Andre
Homeschooling worked for me.

 

Boston Paul

Homeschooling seems to be working for many.

Public Education VS Community Learning.

Your Thoughts?

Dianna Anderson
Being a teacher and a lifelong public school student (getting my bias out here quickly), I have to ask what your definition of “government control” would be.
Michael T. Lane
homeschooling….ideally I would be for it, but I actually teach private lessons to a brother and sister who have home-schooled their whole lives. Dad’s a professor and all the reasons for the choice are what you usually hear.

All I can say is smart kids when it comes to books. But never have I met a more socially inept pair. Group schooling may have its downfalls, but learning to be a member of social groups, conflict resolution….some things can’t be quantified on paper. Perhaps these two kids are just weird, but they are my only face to face example of the process and given the example, I’d never do it to my son. I would rather monitor his education and point out what things should be considered and not ingested blindly over the social isolation of private homeschooling.

Chase Andre
From middle school on, I was homeschooled (elementary school was done in “Private Education”).

You hit the nail on the head, Paul. Homeschooling, though often evoking a horrific mental image of awkward children clad in homespun floral garb, was precisely “Community Learning.”

In that community, parents who were particularly capable of handling a tough subject (Physics, Latin, etc) would step up and tutor in that subject for a class of homeschoolers. The community relied on each other and on active involvement.

Also, seeing that everything was done in family groups, as a youth I was constantly exposed to people outside my social norm. When I was with my friends, I was often with younger siblings and older siblings, and even parents/adults. I had to learn to conduct myself in each of these situations rather than the Public School Method of segregating groups by age. This keeps you isolated to one primary social circle, which, as we know, just isn’t how the real world works.

Lastly, I was not confined to standardized curriculum. Except for days that I had classes with other homeschoolers, I started my work when I wanted (typically 9am daily), and I was done when I was done (whether that be 3 hours later or 7 hours later). I sculpted my High School Curriculum to fit my interests and emphasized what I wanted to learn, even when it was a bit out of the box from standardized learning. Often, my learning was done outside the “classroom” and out in experiences with my group of homeschoolers. This made the learning tangible. Something that more often than not, simply can’t happen in Public Education.

All in all, I’m a fan of homeschooling. If I could go back, I wouldn’t consider Public School for a second.

Chase Andre
for the record, I wrote my response without seeing Michael’s comment.

Michael, sad to say, that’s not completely uncommon. I know a fair amount of socially awkward (/inept entirely) homeschoolers.

Personally, I feel that’s more on the fault of the parents than it is the kids. From my experience, the parents who homeschool and function well socially produce kids that were homeschooled and function well socially.

It could be argued that there are a fair amount of socially inept people in the public school system. But I’ll freely admit the percentage runs higher in the Homeschooling camp.

…I’m only a tad socially awkward. I think I came out alright…

Craig Ferguson
Public education generally works fine in most developed nations. For some reason it doesn’t in the US. Why? Public education does not = govt control. In Australia (where I’m from) you’re probably more likely to come across the “establishment” views and ideals more in a private school than a public school.
Boston Paul
If a country has a Board/Ministry of Education that determines/approves/establishes the Curriculum, it is Government Controlled or at the very least Heavily Influenced by the Government.

Craig, indeed, Public education does work fine. It runs smoothly.

It is a fine Oiled Machine.

Machines are not organic however.

Machines have a predetermined function. Put a monkey wrench in the machine and it breaks down.

I also make no distinction between private/public education if it answers to a Government Entity.

Technically, Community Learning and Homeschooling can be classed as Private.

I do see a difference in Home Schooling and Community Learning as well, though there are gray areas, overlapping and parallels.

Your Thoughts?

Jeffree Pike
I think not having public schools is more dangerous…that is what right-wingers want like vouchers to pay for their private religious schools….I teach at a public school where elementary kids learn Chinese, Taiwanese,English & other subjects including music….I do disagree how they segregate kids at an early age here…(once in 5th grade one class is the ‘soccer’ kids who play soccer about 2 hrs a day while the ‘brains’ are constantly studying)
Jeffree Pike
On agreement I will share that my understanding is that all kids in Taiwan are now being vaccinated w the H1N1 ‘vaccine’…I’m told some kids were vomiting after the injections…
Craig Ferguson
I’m not really sure that society changes fast enough to worry about curriculum, which is evaluated and updated annually if necessary.
Dianna Anderson
Craig said precisely what I was thinking. When I think of Government Control of Ed, I think of Pink Floyd’s ‘The Wall’ or ‘1984’ by George Orwell. In extreme cases such as that, yes, it is dangerous.

But, BP, now that you’ve posted your definition, I think I have to disagree with you. By that reasoning, any organization controlled by a higher authority of sorts is dangerous. Logically concluded, that means the Catholic Church, the Anglican Church, any sort of government institution, not merely limited to education but anything involved in public discourse – heck, the TSA, the EPA or, heck, PETA – is dangerous. As you already know, I’m less inclined to be so automatically distrustful of such higher authority, especially if I have seen it function well in my own life.

Now, in specifically tying this down to education, “government approved curriculum” sounds terrifying, but, really, it just means that the education is standardized to make sure that the students are being given basic skills they need to become contributing members to society – meaning, able to function on their own, able to think critically for themselves, able to contribute – if not to the academic sphere – but to the ongoing discourse that characterizes humanity. That is the goal of any sort of education, public (gov’t approved) or no (homeschool). Standardizing education gives universities and employers a reasonable expectation for what comes with a prospective employee or student. If you have a high school diploma, one could reasonably assume that you know how to put a sentence together – most of the time.

Being the product of a public education system, I won’t say that it doesn’t have it’s flaws, but I can’t buy that just because it’s a government curriculum that it’s dangerous. And after teaching for the first time in an environment (a private university) this year, I also have to disagree with (and somewhat resent) your implication that teachers and students simply become cogs in the machine and it prevents learning from being “organic.” Whether or not the learning is organic does not depend on the gov’t control or lack thereof on the curriculum – it depends on the ability of the teacher to create an active learning environment, to encourage their students to think critically. I’m anything but a cog in the machine, and I resent the implication as such.

John Uys
Gov control of anything is dangerous.
John Uys
How do they govern them selves?
Dianna Anderson
Pronouns, John? Who’s they and themselves?
John Uys
you must work for them…..
Michael Turton
Undemocratic government control of anything is dangerous. Accountable government control of most things is merely exasperating and often inefficient, but it is seldom dangerous.
Michael T. Lane
I don’t understand this knee-jerk reaction against all things organized or monitored by the government. Most of these controls were installed in Western countries as a specific reaction to the failures of “community based” regulation…read a novel like The Jungle by Upton Sinclair for an example. You think people/groups/companies are going to regulate themselves? The historical record resoundingly says no.

In the realm of education, what that would mean, if the individual community held total sway over all aspects of its children’s education, is that children are victims of the circumstances in which they were born. Religious kids would get only religious education, bent to fit a preconceived world view with active omission of contrary facts. Racist communities would decide to interpret everything through a racist prism. Kids, being little and without say, would have to take it if their parents said so. This was how it was for most of history and the very reason that measures were taken. Technological advancement has rendered that world obsolete. It wasn’t a world of rosy sunshine and rampant free-thinking. It was a world where on community educated its kids to hate the community on the other side of the river. Sorry to be pessimistic, but history leans far more to this side that to the one posited by the utopian community model.

In the end, someone is always controlling what kids learn. The government may be a faceless entity that at times is actively instilling propoganda, but the same could be said for any community based system. It’s just what the goal and how large the scope of the propoganda.

Boston Paul
I am enjoying the discourse. I must take a bit of leave, but I do want to leave with my thought. I will be back later today.

I believe Governments should have no Authority over Learning.

The Student/Teacher relationship is a sacred one. It is organic, mutually exclusive and should be pure Dao.

The work of giving/sharing Knowledge should be in the Hands of (Wo)Men of Wisdom.

I think we can all agree that a Government Entity clearly is not this.

Public Education is at the mercy of the government.

The Government will authorize what can/cannot be taught in its schools. Thus, students will be given a bias education depending on the Nature of said government. If the government is Fascist, Communist, Capitalist, etc., that is what the students learn or are heavily influenced by.

I have been a teacher in and out of various Institutions.

This Thread is not about teachers per-se, it is about the system. I know excellent teachers from all walks. Some excellent despite the system; regardless, their hands are tied. They are not free, but bound in the system. I have seen teachers fired for not adhering to the status quo.

Dianna, thank you for your thoughtful post.

Mike L. just saw yours.

I will address both in detail asap.

Will be back tonight Taiwan Time.

Peace and Love

Blaine Whiteley
I think Mike L and Dianna have hit the nail on the head, though I’d like to point out that they are talking about a national ‘core’ syllabus which still leaves room for other community based interests to be taught.

Paul I feel you’re talking about teaching methodolgy more than educational control when you mention the Tao. Good teachers always end up ‘dancing’ with their students.

Maybe we should be addressing Declarative Knowledge (Book knowledge) Vs Procedural Knowledge (Apprenticeships etal)

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Dianna Anderson
BP – I look forward to that post, but I’d like to throw something else out there before you do, just to chew on.

I think you’re abstracting “government” far too much. When you discuss the “government entity,” I get this cartoonish image in my head of this big, autonomous hungry machine (painted bright red, for some reason) devouring up little screaming teachers and pupils, and honestly, that’s an incorrect image of the educational system. I have to agree with Mike L on this one in that the knee jerk reaction against anything governmental simply doesn’t make sense here. As he pointed out, there’s really no way to get some sort of unbiased education. I think both your abstraction of the government entity and idealization of the “Dao” that exists between teachers and students is far too abstract to be of any real use in setting a way to go about teaching for the people.

Working within a concrete form – i.e., the real world, public education with a government sanctioned curriculum is yes, far from perfect, but hardly an instrument of evil government control. Like any “system,” it *can* be dangerous (as you rightly point out with fascist and whatever programs), but to outright declare that it *is* dangerous merely because it is a system is, frankly, presumptuous and judgmental.

And I say this as the product of 12 years of public school education, in the midst of completing 6 years of private higher education, and as the daughter of two life long public school teachers. I certainly didn’t turn out as a cog in the machine, did I? Heck, if I just absorbed everything I was “taught,” I’d be a mess of conservatism mixed with odd liberal stripes. I think Mike L is right on the money in that what you’re imagining – education free from government control, this perfect Dao – only exists in a utopian world, which we, clearly, don’t have.

Sorry if that was harsh. Education’s an issue close to my heart.

Tobie Openshaw
I agree … depending on the good graces of every individual teacher to somehow impart the good stuff and not the bad stuff is perhaps expecting a little much. I’ve certainly met enough whackjob individuals who call themselves teachers to be happy that they’re working according to some kind of plan.
Daniel Ship
I run a school in India for street kids. The gov’t here doesn’t do a very good job of educating the masses — in fact, millions are still illiterate — but there is practically no one else to do it. I think if you are lucky enough to be in a position to home school your kids well, that’s fantastic. But I don’t think the majority of people are in that position in any country — and those who are should still have some common basis for the curriculum.
Also, you get lots of freaks teaching all sorts of things to kids, like James Keegstra in Canada teaching that the holocaust never happened, etc. If there is no central control, there will be lots more crazies teaching wrong ideas to kids. Even if some of the so-called crazies are actually enlightened beings doing a far better job than the norm, there needs to be some universal standard to regulate what kids are learning.
Education is perhaps the most important unifying force. When all the kids are being taught the same thing, they become the same. This can be and is being used and also abused, but I think it’s undeniable that in the modern, globalizing age we live in, we have to become more unified in our thinking or there will be more violence and destruction. So standardized education is good in that sense. It’s just necessary to make sure that the people actively participate in determining the nature of the education. One plus is, the more educated people are, the more capable they are of this kind of participation.
So in a nutshell, my opinion is: Gov’t Control of education is essential, but the gov’t has to be controlled by the people.
Jason Grenier
All in all, it’s just another brick in the wall

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l1-QbsU5gA&feature=related

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Leanie Wessels
I have to agree with Craig F. It seems that public schooling doesn’t work well in America. Home schooling can be great but I think there are somethings that our parents can’t teach us especially in the social sector. Education is not only about academic stuff. Kids acquire social skills too. What makes public schooling such a daunting idea is perhaps maybe not enough emphasis on individual needs and that in some cases maybe only one point of view is taught. Public schooling may have a way of enforcing issues.There’s a whole book on this where they talk about the differences in education in the west and east ( 4 got title). But at the end of the day I have to agree with Diane on the role of the teacher. It depends also on the teacher and how they teach it . It is the teacher who can make the difference too, irrespective of whether it is a public or private school. Where I grew up some of the public schools functioned better than the private ones and this was largely in my opinion the teachers who made the difference.
William Walsh
So is a lack of Education…..
Artsees Diner
You want to know what is more scarey than government run education (it is in the united states you know)? Education run by publishing companies! I seriously think there is a scam, a rip off that would make Bernie Madoff look innocent in this country. Doesn’t anyone think it is kind of funny that the same companies that make the certification tests for teachers, the standardized tests for students, the ones that report the results to the government are the same ones that are making millions off of interventions and publications. They are the same ones running all the major job searches, the same ones whose primary funders are universities? Talk about climategate, some one look into the schoolyard gate. Tell me what you see. Come on seriously, children’s test scores have not gone up more than 3% points since testing began in the mid-70’s?
Boston Paul
Wow.

I have a lot of thinking and writing to do.

This might take a while.

Artsees Diner
Boston Paul, you sure get us talking!
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