A Child, His Mother, God & Shit

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I was about eight years old when I thought I was a big man and blurted out the word Shit to show my younger brother and sister what a tough guy I was. I loved to use the word ‘shit’ and often spit the word out lavishly and with venom… out of earshot of adults of course. My brother would gasp “ooo… mommy better not hear you say that!” Smugly, I would say it a few more times.

I didn’t care who heard me. Not even God!

One summer afternoon, after lunch, I was playing with my brother and sister in the yard. We were probably arguing about something mundane – a toy perhaps – but to a child, it was of earth-shattering consequence.

Sure that I was out of earshot of my very Protestant Evangelical Fundamentalist Christian Mother who had been known to not spare the rod on occasion, I yelled out Shit! thinking that would end the earth-shattering dispute.

Immediately, I heard, PAAAAAAAAUUUUULLLL! emerge – breaking the sound barrier – from inside the house.

I cringed.

It was not the ‘PAAUULL! where are you? – come home from dinner’ yell.

Nor was it the ‘PAAUULL! Come home, it’s getting dark!’ yell.

This was clearly the ‘Oh shit, you’re in big fucking trouble’ yell.

Sheepishly, I walked into the house. My brother and sister followed cautiously behind me to see what would happen. They knew that ‘PAAUULL!’ yell all too well.

My mother called me into the living room.

“What did I just hear you say?” she asked looking me straight in the eyes. I looked away.

Ship,” I said.

It did not sound like ‘ship’ to me,” she retorted.

It wasn’t!” My brother and sister betrayed me.

Go stand in the corner,” she commanded. I walked past the piano to stand in the corner. As punishment, she told me I must repeat the word Shit for ten minutes.

This was something new! She was actually going to let me say the word Shit for ten minutes?

AWESOME!

It started out fine and dandy and I began strong: SHIT! SHIT! SHIT! SHIT! SHIT! SHIT! My younger brother and sister were trying to stifle their laughter as I repeated SHIT! over and over.

My mother had gone to the kitchen… but was still within earshot.

This was way better than my Evangelical Christian Mother not sparing the rod!

For the first few minutes, it was cool. I got to say the word Shit ! and I would look over my shoulder intermittently – and cautiously as one could only stare at the wall in the corner and was not permitted to look around – at my younger brother and sister complacently as they stood by watching and grinning.

After what seemed like an hour – but was in fact only five minutes – Shit stopped sounding like word.

My younger brother and sister – not able to contain themselves anymore – were laughing hysterically.

Another minute or so passed, and Shit not only stopped sounding like a word it had also lost all its meaning.

My tongue, the roof of my mouth and even my teeth began to feel numb. I did not know where the [sh] sound began and the [t] sound ended.

My mouth muscles had begun to cramp up and I stopped for a moment to try to form the word.

Did I tell you to stop?” My mother called out. “I’m adding on two more minutes!”

 I cried out. My smug smirk had long faded into an agonizing grimace.

Shit – shiiit – shi – tish – tish – shshh. shitishtishitit… I struggled.

As the 10 minute mark came and went, the word Shit fumbled out of my confused mouth as I prayed to God – whom must have been listening and looking down on the situation with glee – to have mercy and speed up time.
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Finally, my mother came back to the living room, “turn around,” she ordered.

I turned slowly around.

Did you learn a lesson?” she asked.

I nodded and tried to say yes. I heard myself say Yesh instead.

I tried to say yes again. Yesh, I sputtered. I gave up and just nodded.

I vowed never to use the word Shit thereafter and indeed it was quite a while before saying the word felt natural and good again.

Once I realized I could say Shit without stuttering or feeling strange, I vowed to only use the word sparingly… and out of earshot of Mother.

A couple of years later, when Shit no longer gave me that big person feeling, I experimented with the word Fuck… but that is a whole other story.

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You might also like to read some other short stories by Boston Paul AKA The Militant Hippi:

  1. About a Great Grandfather and his Great Grandson:My Great Grandfather: When Cultures Clash. Ass kicking, long hair and Hard Knocks

    2.  This is my weapon and this is my Gun, based on real life events, a young man finds himself in Central America:

https://bostonpaul.wordpress.com/2016/01/12/this-is-my-weapon-and-this-is-my-gun/

3. Hate waiting in line?  This is for you:

https://bostonpaul.wordpress.com/2011/02/11/the-express-lane-10-items-or-less/

4. The Would Be Patriot:

https://bostonpaul.wordpress.com/2010/10/05/a-good-young-man-or-lockes-socks-the-would-be-patriot/

5. A bit of Horror and suspense… never blow this guy’s candle out!

https://bostonpaul.wordpress.com/2010/07/24/short-story-the-flame-that-softly-danced/

6. Getting Stoned at The Fair

https://bostonpaul.wordpress.com/2010/01/17/short-story-stoned-at-the-fair/

 

 

99% of the Christians I know are Hypocrites – here’s why

 

Jesus here. I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT GAYS! Just thought I’d clear that up… Oh yeah, and Boston Paul – The Militant Hippi – is ALRIGHT IN MY BOOK!

 

hypocrite (hipuh-krit)

noun

1.

a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.

2.

a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, especially one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.

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Christians believe that the Bible is the word of God.  That everyone should adhere to all the teachings in the Bible or be punished by God.  Of course it is almost impossible to do this as AJ Jacobs (who wrote My Year of Living Biblically) can attest to. So instead, Christians cherry-pick the verses they want to follow (then persecute others with verses they cherry picked – and ignore the rest).

Here are a couple of examples:

Being Gay

The Gay Community and their Allies have made great strides over the last decade in their fight for equality – including marriage equality – and to be treated as equals in society. Marriage Equality for all those wishing to marry is now the Law of The Land, the decision made by the supreme court. Massachusetts was the first state to allow gay marriage… and many other states have followed suit, but not without the Christian Conservative Right meddling in Human Rights because of their religion.

An example of this is Kim Davis from Kentucky. She’s a county clerk who has refused to issue marriage certificates to same sex couples because it goes against her religion. Never mind that according to her religion, she should be stoned to death for having been divorced THREE TIMES. Now Jesus had a few things to say about divorce as one can read here: Mark 10:12 “And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery.”  What is the punishment for adultery?

Well, Leviticus 20:10 says:
“‘If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife–with the wife of his neighbor–both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death.

Let us know when the public stoning is please.

Not to mention she is a WOMAN and according to 1 Tim 2:12, she should shut the F@#$% up.

Her job is a government job. It is secular. Religion should not even come into play. No matter what she believes, she still must do her job in the separation of church and state capacity. Her salary comes from TAX PAYERS, many of whom are gay.  She has no right to push her religious beliefs on anyone as she works for the state.

Jesus NEVER says anything about homosexuals living in sin. In fact, according to Matthiew 19: 11 -12, Jesus said,Not everyone can accept this teaching, but only those to whom it is given. For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let anyone accept this who can.” (Matthew 19:11-12).

Jesus identifies three classes of men who should not marry women, but let’s focus on the eunuchs who were born that way.

Some might argue that Jesus was referring to males born without testicles. Probably not as this is extremely rare and probably would not warrant an explanation by Jesus. The term “born eunuchs” was also used in other literature of the time and does not mean a ‘man born without testicles’ but rather that they were associated with the stereotypical ‘effeminate’ characteristics (and behavior) just like modern gay men.  Jesus – a child prodigy and well versed in scripture would have been aware of this common view of eunuchs. He says it right there in the scripture –  some people are simply born that way. The implication of his statement is unmistakable— God created gay people the way they are!  No punishment. No mention of sin… Jesus does, however, reiterate the scriptures concerning divorce… so suck on that Kim Davis and all those politicians who have been divorced and re-married and/or cheated on their spouse, yet tout ‘Traditional Marriage’ values. You’re hypocrites.

Food

And while we’re on the topic of cherry picking to suit the Christians’ need to be bigoted in the name of Religion…

BREAKFAST: I see a lot of breakfast pictures from Christians on social media. Often it is on Sundays. The Good Wife makes breakfast before church, bacon eggs.. typical Sunday morning breakfast… except that Leviticus 11:7-8 says: “Pigs have hooves that are separated completely in two. But they do not chew the cud. So they are “unclean” for you. You must not eat the meat of those animals. You must not even touch their dead bodies. They are “unclean” for you. To all the Christians I know (and the ones I don’t!) You’re hypocrites.

LUNCH AND DINNER: I’m from Boston. Boston is famous for its Biblically Unclean Shellfish, namely: Lobster. Leviticus is quite clear about not eating shellfish.. to do so is unclean.

I’m not even going to get into what the bible says about Wealth and Clothing (might save that for another blog post.. but trust me, the Hypocrite List grows with those two items!)

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Now some Christians say that this is all Old Testament Law and Jesus came along in the New Testament and brought some new rules with him.

Fine. I’m cool with that.

Bu then stop using the Old Testament to justify your bigotry concerning our Gay Brothers and Sisters. Because as noted above, Jesus doesn’t mention being gay as a sin at all.

And concerning the Old Testament, remember too what is says in the New Testament, “Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets (SAID JESUS!)  I have come not to abolish but to fulfill.  Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place.”  (Matthew 5:17)

To all you Christians out there… ask yourself, are you a hypocrite?

Show us rational, logical thinkers how you’re not.

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You Might also like to read:

https://bostonpaul.wordpress.com/2010/11/19/god-suffers-from-a-variety-of-psychotic-ailments/

Boston Paul AKA The Militant Hippi: Short History

Boston Paul

 

  • Boston Paul left home when he was 16.
  • Hitchhiked across Amerika when he was 17.
  • Joined the Military when he was 18.
    • He ’served’ in the elite 82nd Airborne Division
    • The 82nd Airborne is based out of Fort Bragg, North Carolina.

POST MILITARY

  • Began doing Police Work & Armed Security in the City of Boston (1990 -1995).
  • Joined the National Guard in 1990. Discharged in 1994.
  • Attended the University of Massachusetts (Boston) 1990 – 1994.
    • Majored in English & Philosophy.
    • Minored in East Asian Studies & Creative Writing.
  • Visited Taiwan for the first time during the Summer of 1993.
    • He was part of the Chinese Language Program at Donghai University.
  • 1994 return to Taiwan for another Summer.
  • Moved to Taiwan in January,1995 and never looked back.

Taiwan

  • 1995: Moved to Taiwan
    • Opened Boston English School, July the same year
    • By 1999: opened 3 English schools in the cities of Taichung, Zhuo-lan, Xinshe
    • Through Boston English School, he began editing/translating English/Chinese.
  • 1996 opened an Entertainment Company.
    • Was an Exotic Dancer until 2005.

English Editing:

His Clients include(d):

  • Various Taiwanese Machine Company Magazines: Articles/Manuals
  • Taiwanese High School/University Students: Essays/Reports
  • Assistant Curator of the Botany Department @ the Taichung Science Museum/PhD Paper on the Begonia Parvula
  • Horticulture/Botany Professor @Zhong-xin University
    • Eulophia graminea orchid for Plant Science Journal
    • Erycina pusilla orchid for PhD. Thesis
  • 2000: Began focusing on Music.
  • 2002: Started the Band ‘Native Space’
  • 2004: Began writing for The Taichung Voice Magazine
  • 2004: Opened The Refuge officially.
  • 2005: Became a Father and had his World rocked
  • 2006: Started the band ‘Militant Hippi’ after a book he is writing.
  • 2006: Co-founded The Basic Aid Project in Taiwan with Geoff North.

Other Tidbits:

Through the Refuge Community, Boston Paul has (with the help of many others) initiated the following Organizations/Events:

  • ~ LUVstock  (Annual)
  • ~Winter Solstice Celebration (Annual)
  • ~Spring Equinox Gathering (Annual)
  • ~Basic Aid Charity Event (Annual)
  • ~Basic Aid Charitable Organization (with Geoff North and others)
  • ~B.P. has  not only been a performer at PeaceFest but has also been an Admin for the PeaceFest (Annual).

Let’s get Personal

Massachusetts is considered to be a Liberal State (Massachusetts was the first state to approve Gay Marriages for example which I applaud but also find odd because of the prevalent Catholic Presence).
The Republican Protestant is the minority in good Ol’ Taxachusetts where I grew up.

My family is very Protestant & very Republican in a very Catholic/Democrat Environment.

What a dynamic.

I was part of the ‘Born Again’ Fundamentalist Evangelical Christian Movement (see John 3:16) as a child.

Yes, 15 years of Religiousness and a Personal Relationship with Jesus.

Not only did I go to Church on Sundays (Sunday Service, Sunday School, sometimes early service and evening service); but I also attended Youth Group during the Middle of the Week; participated in Weekly & Daily Bible Studies; had Daily Devotions; went to Bible Camp in the Summer in New Hampshire; went to various Retreats; and even participated in a couple Billy Graham Crusades (where I was a ‘counselor’ at 14 years old). If I had to do it over, I am not sure I would. But the learning experiences have been invaluable.  Concerning Religion, I’m more cynical & skeptical than ever.

Thank Christ (pun intended) for showing me how f*cked up it all is.

Truth is not found in One Book.

Truth is a Quest that requires an open mind, and seizing opportunities to obtain knowledge from everything & anything.

Truth comes in many Guises and often unexpectedly.

Question what you believe for this does 2 things:

Re-affirms what you already Believe

or

Causes you to Change or Modify what you Believe…

1LUV

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Is God Dead?

Here is one from the archives. It is a short but interesting discussion concerning the Death of God and who may have killed him/her.

I read a book called the History of God by Karen Armstrong a few years back. I thought it was good. She wrote about the concept of the Jewish/Christian/Muslim God and where this God came from and how this God has changed over a few thousand years.  

Her recent writings however, I’m not so sure about.

Our Species has more or less killed the concept of God with the Sword of Science.

But try telling that to the millions of Fundamental Christians living in Amerika.

Your Thoughts? 

She takes a series of statements about god that she says need rethinking, but her thinking is a complete mess.
 
 
Artsees Diner
Interesting concept. If God is dead, then a whole lot of nay-sayers will have to admit that He at one time was very much alive, right? Also, who in the world killed Him then, and can we bring them to trial? After all murder is murder, and if He is dead, then that would explain why there is such a huge void in humanity, after all it is believed that He resides in those who believe…
 
 
Artsees Diner
Quite frankly, nonbelievers need to just give it a rest, and apologetics need to give up trying to convince humanity one way or another, especially nonbelievers. God lives in those who believe, and those who don’t well, they don’t, maybe he doesn’t. I am not sure why those who don’t believe care so much about the concept of a supreme being. Why are non believers so obsessed? Obviously the concept of a supreme being has always and more than likely will be around for as long as we are living and breathing, right? Also, as far as I can see, read, no matter whether you are a fundamentalist, or an atheist activist, neither has any real substance to stand on, so therefore it Armstrong and Dawkins and the likes of them are no different then me right now, we all want to have our day in court. Man makes meaing, whether it is language, mathematics, science, it is all man made, minus believing or attached meaning does anything really exist?
 
 
Cousin Avi
Math is man made?
Ummm…no.
 
 
Dwayne Young
Well put there.God is what you make him/her/it to be.God is different to everyone of us and so is the relationship you have with God,if you even have one….
“Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.” Marcus Auerlius
 
 
Niwa Maibut
If this author believes someone will belive her thoughts and ideas ? then, there must be a god , can we drop this ? None can prove whether god exists or not, doesn’t mean that having the conpect of God is not alive !
 
 
Artsees Diner
the name and symbols given to explain mathematical equations is as man made as the language that you speak, the code that is used in computing, that is unless you want to claim it divinely inspired.  Niwa, amen…I am perplexed as to why there is a blasphemy movement by the atheists…how can you denounce that which does not exist, nor is believed for one, secondly, if the believer believes then believe, and through your good works those around you will want to know what secrets you hold towards a joy-filled life.
 
 
Cousin Avi
The language we use to represent math is man made, of course. We also use it to represent ocean currents and the orbits of planets. Are THOSE man made? There is a distinction between the LANGUAGE and the reality it is used to represent.
As for your wishy washy notion that god lives in the hearts of believers, what utter tripe.
What would you think of a friend who announced that he was so happy because he was destined to marry Angelina Jolie? The usefulness of this belief, or the idea that it makes him happy, is irrelevant against the falsity of the claim, yet this is the kind of argument defenders of religion always make.
There is no evidence for any god claims. To assert that such claims are true because people believe them is blithering foolishness. I suppose you’re prepared to grant that unicorns and leprechauns exist for those who believe in them.
 
 
 
Sara Kennedy Bester
I dig Karen Armstrong.
 
 
 
Bad Andy
religion bores me
 
 
 
Paul Farrar
He keeps me jammin-(Good Cousin)….. God isnt a being, but a force that you feel amoungst you… If you can go with that, then you are doing good.. 🙂 Is he dead? That is up to everyone to believe in thier own minds…. I believe in an inner self that believes what is GOD… When I pray, I talk to my inner mind, and hope that it might go further…( Was there really a JESUS???) I think there was,,, but was there a guy who could make blind people see? Hell NO!! Jesus was a man, who people loved to follow. His belief made people feel good…He made alot of people feel like they meant something, and that all that mattered….Was he really hung on a cross  (maybe—in my eyes NO)?  Was he taken from his grave on Easter? ( No. he was never there to start.)  From the Start, was there a Jesus~~~ Prob., and if there was , he died a happy man.  Thinkin about someone in his inner self that was none other than__(GOD)(your 1st topic).. Love yah cousin (BP)… 😉
 
Is God dead???? I think not… As long as your mind is still functioning,,,,,God is very alive… 😉
 
 
 
Cousin Avi
@ Paul
Redefining the term into some personal force within (or, as Spinoza said, the great natural order of everything), simply ignores the issue.
Belief in an interventionist, omnipotent, omniscient “god” (the foundation of the big three monos) is the question. The actions and demands of the faithful not insignificant consequences thereof. And still, your personal perception notwithstanding, there’s no more evidence for the truth of your claims than for theirs.
You are certainly free to believe as you wish. Sadly, the faithful seem determined to assert (despite the total lack of evidence) that they’re right, and to inflict their ideas on the rest of us via public policy (which is intolerable).
You would appear to make little distinction between prayer and meditation, and I have nothing against the inner-self or the transcendent. But when one starts to invoke the father, son and holy spirit, condemn others to hell, hold forth on morality based on the scribblings of Bronze Age sheep herders, deny civil rights to large segments of the population, attempt to restrict access to legal medical procedures (not to mention a laundry list of egregious criminal behaviour), based on a Jesus myth for which there is no evidence outside of the book they present as both premise and conclusion, we are then dealing with an animal very different than “praying to one’s inner mind”.
 
 
Michael T. Lane
If God was dead, then that wouldn’t be God. The word may be truth or fiction, but there is a standard to which anything one might call God would have to apply. God with a capital G is omnipotent, so it doesn’t die. But what if it killed itself? Can an omnipotent creature end itself? If it can’t then it isn’t omnipotent. But if it does, then it is finite and limited.

Language is limited in its ability to speak of anything singular. The multiplicity of meanings within an entire language are what give words their specific meanings.
So using language to speak or ponder an entity claimed to be One and with no other is fruitless. It is outside language’s scope. Just as well use a hammer to twist in a screw.

The Tao Te Ching says on page one….the Tao that can be spoken is not the Tao. I tend to agree. Whether its Ultimate Truth or the biggest lie ever conceived, either way, talking about it does nothing. Well, it does start fights pretty good.

Leon Rene LaPointe
Last time I checked I was doing quite fine thankyou.
 
 
 
Cousin Avi
I don’t think the problem is language, it’s competing conceptions.
The term omnipotent doesn’t necessarily include the idea of eternal – in fact, there’s a particular theological debate (beyond WHAT properties something called “god” might/must possess) about whether or not god exists beyond the space/time of THIS universe. For example, if the “multiverse” implied by string theory turned out to be fact, would god be the god of all universes, or just this one…and if so, how can one call it “eternal” in the absence of a concept of “time”?
Beyond that, if you’re going to say something like “God was always there and will always be there,” the why not simply say “The universe was always there,” or, “Life was always there,” and be done with it. Occam’s Razor demands that that you not multiply terms unnecessarily.
Zen koans like, “Can an omnipotent god make a rock so heavy even he cannot lift it” do not advance the argument.
The only sane response to those who claim there is a god is, “Fine. Show me the evidence.”
 
 
 
Leon Rene LaPointe
 
 
 
Cousin Avi
Nice link. Misleading title, though. The only people who insist that the universe came from nothing are creationists.
The odd thing is that they don’t seem to understand the irony of their argument. While insisting that science says “Everything came from nothing” (which is not at all what science says), THEY contend that the universe was poofed into existence by an act of omnipotent will.
Of course, inherent contradiction never stopped them before…
 
 
Boston Paul
Thank you all for the posts. Very good points C. Avi.

I would like to read some kind of solid evidence (links, book titles – not the Bible – ETC) from Christians refuting what Cousin Avi has posted.

1LUV

Brian Michael Fall
The concept of a “supreme being” as mentioned earlier, has been around for a very long time indeed. This does not make it true nor does it prove that one exists. People have also believed for a very long time that chicken feet and four-leaved clovers bring one good luck. Currently, in some parts of the world, it does one well to eat the body parts of an albino. Does that make it true? This concept developed out of an inability to explain a vast many things, including, for example, the way the ocean is drawn back a very significant amount before the arrival of a tidal wave. Well, I guess it must have been the power of god chanelled through Moses, ’cause I can’t think of anything else. Man continues to fail to “pluck the apple”, if you will, and simply evolve into a more intelligent species which refuses to ignore fact and act accordingly to it. The future is unknown and the unknown is terrifying to many and fear is powerful, and evolution is the future. We must be very brave to move forward. Don’t let others scare you with their bullshit. There is no heaven. There is no hell. You will not be rewarded or punished for any kind of life you’ve led. Don’t be afraid to change your mind. Don’t be afraid to admit that something you believe might be wrong. Don’t be afraid of the truth because it will never be what you want it to be no matter how hard you pray or want.
 
 
 
Boston Paul
Well said Brian.
 
 
 
Cousin Avi
I think you’re out of luck, BP. Christians point to scripture. The rest of it leaves them in the blocks.

SUPPORT AMERICAN TROOPS! What does this statement mean?

SUPPORT AMERICAN TROOPS serving in Iraq & Afghanistan!

What does this statement mean exactly?

I am anti-war. Period. I was in the Army for 4 years. I signed the dotted line. I was 18 and legally an adult as far as the government was concerned. According to the government, I was able to make my own decisions (except of course I could not decide if I wanted a beer or not. The drinking age was 21. The government thought I was old enough to die for my country, but not old enough to have a beer, go figure. We’ll discuss that at another time.).

Soldiers join the military for many reasons. GI BILL, adventure, to get away, learn a trade, and yes there are even those Nationalistic ‘ate-up’ ones that join to kill a Commy for Mommy. Point is, regardless of the bells and whistles the Military provides; we all join a War Machine.

That’s it.

By joining the military, like it or not, you are supporting war. So don’t be surprised when they call you up (Reverves, National Guard included) to ‘serve’ (i.e. kill others and perhaps be killed) your country. You sign the dotted line, you are THEIRS.

That brings me to ‘Support The Troops’ and its implications. We all make mistakes. We’re Human. It is what we do: we fuck up all the time. But most of the time, no one hates us for our mistakes.

For example; we may be disappointed when our children do something we think is wrong, malicious or stupid; but we still love our children, we still nurture our children, we show the children where their mistakes are. We still give the children food, clothes, our love. We don’t put the child out into the street, spit on the child, beat the child.

In short we Support the Children, just not the (stupid, malicious wrong) actions they do.

Support the Troops. Indeed. But let’s not get that confused with Anti-war which the Media and those that watch Foxnews or listen to Glenn Beck (there are people take that guy seriously?) seem to muddy.  To see how this statement was received – Read the comments below then leave your own.

Peace in the Middle East.

What does it mean to support the Troops?

Discussion from Facebook

Quite Interesting Take a Peek.

Leon Rene LaPointe

We have to send them money?
Julian Bush
it means get them home!
Leon Rene LaPointe
Kinda like starving kids in Africa… Support a soldier, make sure he learns to read and write, goes to school, every few weeks you get a photo and a thankyou letter… I think?
Leon Rene LaPointe
Oh? So by supporting a soldier, the American army will send one to live with you at your own house?
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Larry Glasco
it means stand behind them no matter your belief as they are only doing thier assignement or job as you do every day you have a choice to do your job or not they do not their consequences for not following orders are much more severe then you not … while you sleep or play on here they hardly ever sleep while you go shopping they wear the same clothes for days so yes please support them and let them no they are loved and cared for
Leon Rene LaPointe
I support the troops under that definition, I even support the war in afghanistan, but I do not support the war in Iraq…
Mars Alexandre
Like… psychological support ? Well , under those circumstances of “no choice” and go follow orders like a dumb dog , I guess it is fare at least thinking people feel pity on them and show some compassion…
Can you imagine the feeling of guilt after know that the whole thing was just a mascarade to steal a whole nation’s oil?
Well…I do believe in Obama’s intentions of peace , but that doesn’t erase that they massacred and destroyed a whole nation and murdered thousands of human beings under the new Hitler’s regime (Bush admin) Just for oil… or money or what ever the hell the son of a bitch was thinking …
Yes I do pity them (it is some sort of support isn’t it?)
No offense here , the U.S. are beautiful people and I can say that because I have very good friends there , just … thanks God dark ages are over , and finally U.S. can have a breathe … and so the rest of the planet…
Leon Rene LaPointe
Why else wage war? Oil is a pretty good reason to wage war! I think the thing that pisses people off is that they weren’t up front about it, if they had slick commercial made about how cool oil is before they invaded everyone would totally be for it… The mistake was not the act but the message. Hire better propaganda ministers is my opinion.
It means to send them care packages and let them know that you appreciate their service regardless of what you believe. As the sister to Paul’s COUSIN (yes that makes him my cousin too but the lack of support he has for my brother makes me feel less like family) who is deployed in Iraq as we speak, I find this sort of cruel and idiotic banter offensive. I don’t believe we should be at war but its not the soldier’s fault. I’m sure if any of you were in his place right now you’d be upset by the lack of compasion and understanding found here. I’m not stupid and I know all about your war for oil crap but I don’t care about that any more, what I care about is that my baby brother comes home safe. Talking about how there should be a war doesn’t make it go away!!!!! Voting the right people in does. So shut up and do something or go stop making asses out of yourselves by babbling sarcastic comments about men and woman who are doing a Jon most of you can’t do if you tried
Leon Rene LaPointe
Yeah, we understand all that but its more fun to be sarcastic on the internet.
Nicki Dunton
Well I’m glad that my 19 year old brother, soon to be father, risking his life round the clock provides you with hours of entertainment. *note the sarcasm* ignorance is bliss.  I’ve stated my mind and now I’m going to bed. Karma is a bitch 🙂 have a good night or day, what ever time it is where ever you are.
Leon Rene LaPointe
Oh c’mon now… Cheeky internet chat is not going to lose the war.
No its not, but I’m not concerned about losing or winning. Just my brother. I don’t find this “cheeky” either. I’m probably too tired to joke about my brothers life, goodnight
Leon Rene LaPointe
I erased my last reply and it was not related to any of your spelling or grammar. So you replied to something that I wrote before that made little sense… I said before previously that I am not against the troops, I stated before that I am anti-Iraq war, pro-afghanistan war… Anti-peace, pro-calm… And support your brother, but have no support for the crap that got him involved in an unjust war in Iraq. Cheers!
You must have erased it while I was typing my reply. Sorry. And frankly I was more upset with “mars” and their comments than yours. I have also previously stated that I don’t agree with the reasons we went to war either, but all that goes out the window when some one you adore is fighting that war no one likes. Your focus becomes them and their life, yes you still vote for changes etc but arguments like these become transparent and meaningless. Not nearly important as your loved one’s life. Yes, I’m passionate about this, its my brother that I love dearly, and I’m passionate about the people I love, don’t even get me started about my kids lol
Dwayne Young
The war in Afghanistan is just as unjust as the war in Iraq is in my opinon.
I can’t see how you can be pro one war and anti the other.
What has Afghanistan done to deserve what they got?
Is it because the Taleban supposidly harbour a fugitive that was supposidly “the mastermind” of 9/11…(the same Taleban who wiped out herion production while in power but which now flourishes under “occupation”)
Why not find the “fugitive” and leave the people alone!
The Taleban is the people of Afghanistans problem not the U.S or anyone elses problem.There is no need to meddle in their internal politics.
That is a problem for the people of Afghanistan to solve.The C.I.A has proven links to terrorist organisations…Does this then give permission for countries to go and liberate the people of America from tyranny???
It’s fuckin madness.Both wars are being fought on fraudulent fronts.
Damian Randall
I’m with Dwayne on this one.
Mars Alexandre
About your brother my friend , yes , I agree with you and understand and support your comment , I know that feeling as well, I also went to war but I refused to follow orders as I was fighting for a cause , not for money and I sure faced the consecuences. we all have a choice my friend , it is the beauty of being human … Free will…
M.A.D. Mutual assured destruction … When are humans going to understand that we are 1 species… I know war better than what I would like…pain,suffering,stress , it affects not only the victims and the soldiers , also thousands of families and relatives as it is your case, trust me I know…
I apologize if my comment was some how … offensive… But same as me , hour brother has a choice , we all do , follow , fight and even die is worth if it is for the right reason , to protect those we love , for freedom , for a noble idea . I do not support genocide under any circumstance. Get your brother out of there.
I admire your passion and support and understand your feelings.
Jennifer Marie Williams
Supporting troops also means being there for the families left behind. As achild of a military parent, I understand the psychological damage to the families and soldier this causes. Just as I know the consequences of themnot following orders like a “dumb dog”. If Boston is using this platform to provoke thought or change. What good does the sarcasm and bitching do for the rest who are passers by? I’d rather appear thoughtful, passionate and open to others perspectives than slinging insults whether intentional or not. Of course if the nternet is your alter ego… Makes me wonder what’d you do when the worlds ills are again at your front door. Will you stand and speak for yourself? Or will you look for that Persn in camoflauge to do the dirty work? Or that officer in blue you taunt at rallies? Curious.
Craig Zaidel
***i apologize for the length of this***

paul, it cant possibly mean something ‘exact’ for anyone. the statement itself has been been politicized since september 12th, despite the fact we have been intervening militarily in both afghanistan and iraq since the 1980s. ‘support the troops’ has become a red herring argument for both sides of the spectrum, thus deflecting attention away from why there is such a need for a military presence in the middle east in the first place. you people are debating in a house of mirrors. its sometimes embarrassing to read, but they represent baby steps.

the easiest answer is the right one – the US will never withdraw troops from the middle east because it never has. theyve been there for 30 years already. this is a global, imperialist, strategy set in motion a generation ago. geo-politically, the US govt knew it must maintain their ground, along with corporate and national ties, to stay afloat in latter half of this century. russia has resources that china will need once the mediterranean shipping lanes and, most importantly, pipelines (see afghanistan), will be auctioned to the highest bidder (and by bidder, i mean the one with the biggest gun – a.k.a. the US). the chess pieces just arent already on the board, we are halfway through the match. … See More

most people dont even realize theres a game going on.

the amazing thing about revisionist history is that most people dont read what comes before it, deluded by the belief that as the species evolves so will the integrity of our intentions, or, at least, the integrity of the literate. ironically, history has shown us the opposite, which is why its imperative to absorb as much as we can from all viewpoints and all times.

we sit and read/watch another report of a suicide bomber blowing up a crowded market, or listen to absurd shit-politik and we take our anger to the only place we believe to have a voice… the internet. and we yell things like, ‘tyranny,’ and, ‘no blood for oil,’ and other meaningless statements like, ‘support the troops serving in iraq and afghanistan!’

however, i have friends in those countries right now and i would like to see them again. this is why i suggest that this statement cannot ‘exactly’ mean the same for anyone.

Brian Michael Fall
“Support the Troops” What does it mean? It depends entirely on who says it.
To one, it may mean “shut up, look the other way and let us do what we what, right or wrong.”
To another, it may mean “stop wasting them in foreign lands and bring them home to serve where they’re needed, respected, wanted and loved.”
Whatever reason you say it’s for, the fruit has rotted and fallen off the tree before it even ripened.
Where’s the cheap gas? Where are the shining new democracies of the middle east?… See More
WWII was fought over 6 years covering an entire contintent ( I’m only referring to the European theatre here) involving many countries against an army that even at that time makes the best of today’s middle eastern armies pale in comparison.
I think the relevent question is why the hell isn’t the job done yet?
If you were performing your job in this half-assed manner, you’d have been sacked ages ago.
In short, political and military leaders of today are disgracefully useless, incompetent and inept.
The only I agree with Craig is that it means something different to everyone. The rest goes back to what I said about how all of these political and philisophical discussions become mute when we are waiting for a loved one to come home safely. I appreciate all the positive and understanding comments made. Sitting here debating on facebook ISN’T going to change the world or humanity, living your live positively will. and in one of my lasts posts it should say that he is soon to be A father, I Re-read it and realized it sounded like he was going to be MY father lol
Yeah. Oil and in the name of god. Two perfectly good reasons to wage war *rolls eyes*. Hey, just think, if the world hadn’t used either of those for that very reason, we may only have Hitler to blame for anything, right?
Kristen LeNormand Arute
So much commentary from such uninformed people! Like being an authority on parenting when you don’t have any children of your own! Having an opinion is one thing, but the sarcastic pseudo-intelligent comments are pretty ridiculous. Nicki, my brother-in-law didn’t meet his son until he was 5 months old because he was stationed in Kuwait 19 years ago. It was very difficult on my sister and the whole family. I hope your brother doesn’t have to wait 5 months to meet his baby. I wish him a safe return home.
Thank you so much Kristen! His son is due in December, he is going to to get his mid-your leave for that time but no guarantees, he may have to wait just as long unfortunately.
Kristen LeNormand Arute
Good luck! I hope it works out. And he could be home for Christmas too! 🙂
Rick Wolfe
Support the troops by supporting peace!
Hey, my cousin was 6 months pregnant at the time of 9/11 and was due at work in the north tower that morning. She had morning sickness and missed her commuter rail into Manhattan. Thank the gods for small favors, or I would have lost more than the one relative I did that day (cousin whom I didn’t know related by marriage on one of the planes that went down). My boyfriend is former navy and very proud of it. We all have our reasons to support or not support the military in whatever form. Here, I’ll open a whole new can of worms-Bush was a fucking idiot who should have been shot and put out of our misery.
Yeah but its not the military’s fault, the politicians control the military so its rather ignorant NOT to support our soldiers who are in harm’s way. My brother didn’t cause any conflict with Iraq or Afganistan, but its him over there, (saving lives mind you as a crew chief of a med unit) not bush or any other politicians. Direct your anger at the right people and leave the people who die for YOU out of it.
Lisa Davis Owens
Lisa Davis Owens
What does supporting the troops mean? To one Army Mum that has started a program called Operation Desert Swap (a group of people who actively support our troops with letters cards, care packs & books) it means that there are peoples sons/daughters, fathers/mothers, sisters/brothers, nieces/nephews, grandchildren, aunts/uncles, cousins, and friends who are far far from home in conditions that a family member or friend hates to see them in. A dangerous place, a place far different then they are used to, who deserve to be remembered, cared for and appreciated.

To clear the muddy waters you all have created let me tell you that there is a difference between supporting the war(s) and supporting the human beings invovled in it/them. There is a difference between fighting for your country and fighting for your gov’t. You ppl act as tho America is a home of politicians. America is filled w/ millions of ppl, ordinary ppl who want to be protected against terrorism (which includes being terrorized by our gov’t)

Over my dead cold body will my son and the others who serve be treated like my husband was treated when he came home from Vietnam. They are only the game pieces not the game players. Keep your criticism for the players.

For a group of ppl proclaiming love & peace, you sure are filled with hate, intolerance & disrespect….hypocrits.

Now, I am done, for those w/o the brains to figure out what that means, it means I will say no more on this subject.

  • “Now, I am done, for those w/o the brains to figure out what that means, it means I will say no more on this subject.”

BP Note: I love this line. Now I am done and you know what that means? I’m finished. I will say no more… really! That’s it. No more on this subject! The end!

Rock Starkey
Isn’t it pretty similar, actually, to “support your local convenience store sales clerk”? I mean the functionality is fairly similar right? They both give you things you don’t need at a fraction of what they cost in terms of resource availability. And they both smell of ointment… sometimes. At least my local one does… haven’t smelled any soldiers lately. I think it’s late.
Mars Alexandre
Who ever it is that has a brother overseas …
I see just a blank silhouette with no name on it , so feels like writing to a ghost here …
So what you are basically saying here is that your brother is a volunteer victim of the system , and you are deeply worried about him? (Don’t mean to be rude here bro , I really know what you are going through)
1) Who named US “police of the world”?
2) Why US has troops in the middle east?”Terrorism”? or just has military advantage so can invade any nation that has something US wants…… See More
3) I am not against US , I am against war … ANY WAR! and I do believe at this point of evolution humans SHOULD UNDERSTAND THAT WE ALL SHARE THIS PLANET AND HAVE NOWHERE ELSE TO GO.
4) So they are rebuilding what they messed up , and saving the same people they murdered?
5) No matter the excuse army has to be in foreign land , just the fact they are there it is an invasion.
So , if some bigger nation invade your land and kill your family , would you love that nation?
6)THE GREAT MENACE OF TERRORISM… let me try to find something that actually makes sense on that one… Oh yes … money…
7) So , if 9/11 was a legitimate terrorism attack (With all do respect for the victims and their relatives) means it is a license for murder anywhere any time , even send your brothers and sisters to a living hell and cause pain and death to so many people?
8) Why US military has to make sure no one else has nuclear power? (I AM AGAINST WEAPONS OF ANY KIND)
9)Who can certify that US military has no nuclear weapons?So the rest of the planet can sleep in peace.
10 Gorge Bush … same as Hitler … Will he ever take responsibility for his actions and go to trial?
Brother , your brother is risking his life in a war that is not his war , you are in a horrible pain because of that just to make millions to the Bush family.
Tell me: Are you still support this criminal?
I sure hope your brother returns home safe , you can be sure he will be in my prays.
Leon Rene LaPointe
Go live in Afghanistan… The thing is pre-gulf war II anyone could have lived in Iraq with very little problems in a vaguely secular society… Afghanistan has been fucked for ages. I support the NATO intervention in messed up country that treats its citizens like shit beyond any of the little tears the oh-so oppressed western world has with all these oh-so terrible conspiracies we have all the time in the world to follow, while people are getting their heads chopped off in afghanistan for being gay or a supposed adulterer… Fuck peace, I support moments of calm. Peace is achieved when humans get a new brain or finally die out and replaced by the next bunch ass-munchers.
Mars Alexandre
The world is divided …
Proves that humans are no longer one species…
So sad…
Anyway … internal politics of another country…
How is that US concern? Is it humanity?
Or just a chance to find an excuse for an invasion , stealing resources and make millions?
Well , let me rephrase that…
How is that Gorge Bush concern?
Leon Rene LaPointe
By all of your hippy dippy wishy washy logic we should have allowed the Nazi’s to totally eradicate Europe. People who can afford that form of logic are usually the privledged. The rest of the world has to eat what is put on the plate while we get our panties in a bunch over a slice of meat…
Leon Rene LaPointe
The world aint divided, there ain’t two species of mankind, there is just humans and human problems… In order to remove the problems you must remove the dynamics of the human mind, you must remove variables , you must remove drama, to remove these aspects of the human mind you create machines, peaceful machines at the expense of all this chaos makes us non-human… I would rather live here on this flawed earth than an eternity in heaven or an engineered heaven on earth ran by men who ideologized peace, for heaven if it does exist would very quickly be just like earth if humans are in anyway involved…
Leon Rene LaPointe
THE ONLY GOOD PARTY… IS A RIOT!!!
Mars Alexandre
Mr. LaPointe:
1) “By all of your hippy dippy wishy washy logic we should have allowed the Nazi’s to totally eradicate Europe.”
ISN’T GORGE BUSH EXACTLY THE SAME AS ADOLF HITLER? (answer depends on which side of the line are you , as everything else is relative , isn’t it?)
2) “People who can afford that form of logic are usually the privileged.”
Maybe , yes , I have two master degrees and very proud to say I made it myself , I was a street child and remember looking for food in the garbage outside the local restaurants , I cleaned toilets to pay for my studies and still now feel I am the same , only have acquired knowledge (in the end , that is all I will take with me , things will remain here)… See More
It is how you rule your thinking , your mind and your heart what makes you get out the hole… and become who you truly are.
But this argument is not about you and me and how different we think as we have no power to change anything , only let go a little bit that bitter feeling all this oil-money war parade has left within all human kind.
Craig Zaidel
chaplin – modern times/great dictator
kurzweil – the age of spiritual machines
Leon Rene LaPointe
George Bush was/is hardly Hitler, as much as that would be nice for us to have a super villian in our generation. Obama is actually the anti-Christ 😛 so touche Hitler!

Your ability to even go and get an education is because of this evil conspiracy against humanity society we live in. I don’t think children in Afghanistan get that option in the slightest unless their parents happen to have tonnes of money. I am not saying that it doesn’t happen, but it would be fair to say that an average impoverished westerner has a better oppurtunity to elevate themselves than one would in Afghanistan prior 911.

The world is not a battle between good and evil or black and white… It is merely a clusterfuck of grey.

Mars Alexandre
Ha! There we go! Yap , have them both and love them both.Well… I can perfectly imagine Bush and Powell “The great dictator” Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!
Leon Rene LaPointe
Mars Alexandre
Mr. LaPointe :
When and where I grew up had very similar conditions to those places you mention (Yes an average of 100 murders a day , and police doing nothing but stealing and assaulting , oppression as you have no idea) Still I will not deny I was lucky to scape…

“The world is not a battle between good and evil or black and white… It is merely a clusterfuck of grey.”
I like this one , and totally agree.

Sure, just ask and I’ll share.
Leon Rene LaPointe
Mars I enjoy finding out your view on these things, trust me I not hell-fire and damnation or even actually concerned about world politics, I do admit that I don’t toe the popular line on a lot of issues though, I am neither democrat or republican. I personally believe that the only real peace a man can hope to achieve is hopefully within his own family or a small group of friends. Strive for the small victories, I guess…

Everyone wins in internet debate!

Mars Alexandre
It is the beauty of free will , my Grand Father used to say : “Respect for others rights and choices is peace”
I like this debates very much , it’s very interesting to know others thinking to this matters , everybody is different and I have to tell you I have learnt a lot today.
Thank you very much for the link , I bet anyone who reads it will find it strangely familiar…
Londoner Taichung
We can’t even support one another…
Mars Alexandre
Good one La…

POLITICS:Military News Network Dialogue: September 11, 2009

1st MNN Dialogue that I was involved in:
I saw that a member of my family, who has a son in the Middle East, was in this group. I went to check it out. Saw some comments made about the steel from the 911 being used to build the Navy Ship: USS New York. Thought I would re-post the comments made by the Patriotic Americans.Feel free to add your thoughts:

MilitaryNewsNetwork.com reports: on this 8th anniversary of 9/11, that steel from the World Trade Center was used in the construction of the new US Navy ship USS New York. The ship’s motto is Never Forget.

Some of the comments that transpired (BP is #17)

1. d Kraeger: ANCHORS AWEIGH, NEW YORK. GO POOUND THE HECK OUT OF TERRORISTS EVERYWHERE.

2. Glenda Ramos: Wow what a way to Never Forget 911. Awesome!!

3. Heather Milyo Bellantone: Great to hear that! I will never forget seeing those tractor trailers hauling those steel beams on the Staten Island Exp for weeks following 9/11. Good to know some of the beams were used in the construction of the US Navy Ship USS New York. Thank you!! We will never forget!! God Bless!

4. Joe Martino: send it to the middle east and BLOW THE SHIT out of them

5. Fred Shields: republican powers active

6. Steve Compton: Charlie Daniels summed it up best, when he said…. “Dedicated to the memory of the people who did nothing more than go to work on a Tuesday morning. God Bless America.”

Rhonda Farris

I remember where I was, what I was doing, who I called and how I felt…

Jerry Meyers

Jerry Meyers

What a Day….God Bless the USA…..PLEASE do not forget those that lost their lives that day…..and those that are currently and will in the future. Have a heart Facebook friends …….send your thoughts to all that have been effected by the past and present effects of this day!
Joe Martino

Joe Martino

send it to the middle east and BLOW THE SHIT out of them
Laura Wason Bowers

We still take time to remember December 7, 1941
Lee Staples

Lee Staples

Um I believe that those of us who have husbands, wives, gf’s, bf’s etc do all that I know I do ……I have lost a few friends in this war and miss them all tremedously…..so for those of you who think that we don’t remember them we all do…….its hard to believe that some people don’t think that we do……this is the military news network and we always send our prayers and thoughts no matter who we are……..

Richard Mabee

Richard Mabee

Yea Jean, what the heck, that is 23.36 hours for every person killed. That should be enough right? Yor concern for our soldiers is evident, the ones fighting the “so called war”. I think it is time to forget you Jean!
Jeannie Davis Brantley

Jeannie Davis Brantley

Jean Kuhn……..THANK YOU!!!! Very well said and so true!!!
Deborah Omundsen

Deborah Omundsen

Just because the media does not give this kind of attention to our soldiers at home or abroad doesn’t mean they aren’t remembered every day of every week all year long. Since when do we need the media to tell us what and who to remember!
Samia Battin Cote

Samia Battin Cote

We should never forget that it happened, HOWEVER I don’t need it crammed down my throat and continuously replayed every year. Yes, we remember D-Day, Pearl Harbor Day, etc. but we don’t have to rewatch it to remember. What we need to remember is that it is possible to rehappen, and how to prevent it… not how it happened in the first place.
Pamela P. Langley

Pamela P. Langley

God bless all of our troops, especially on 9/11!
Tina Nalley-Orsted

Tina Nalley-Orsted

Never forget……………………..
Jean Milakovich Blazak

Jean Milakovich Blazak

I don’t mind having 911 as a reminder. We Americans sometimes need a kick in the pants to remind us of the devastating time it was for us and the famlies of there lost ones. The wars are and will always be a reminder, but it was only 8 years ago and it should not have happened to us in this time. Do you realize what is going on in our country? We are at war! Lets not forget it.
Laura Mae
Laura Mae

Never Forget!!
Kendra McCrory
Kendra McCrory

I think it’s a great idea for them to let us remember 9/11 …. it is the main reason why we are doing what we are doing in the middle east and YES, we should remind people because it’s easy to forget with all the negative light on the war, it’s good to remind people just what we’re there for. I think it should be done every year. Remember, just because you don’t think it needs to be “crammed down your throat every year”, it’s a good way to remember all the people that died that day and give their families ONE day out of the year to grieve and remember their loved ones. Try to remember to have compassion for the families of every last 3,000 people that lost their life that awful day. I hope we never keep showing and refreshing people’s memory of exactly what this country is made of. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!! And Samia, we do have things every year on Pearl Harbor day, being I lived in Hawaii on the island of O’ahu, it’s still a big deal there.. that’s why the Arizona Memorial (cont’d)
Kendra McCrory

Kendra McCrory

is one of the most visited tourist attractions in Hawai’i. It’s sad to know that people don’t want to let the country remember and refresh the feeling we felt that day so we can remember what we are fighting for!
Doug Peppers

Doug Peppers

“We may do a little bit of fighting amongst ourselves, but you outside people best leave us alone. Cause we’ll all stick together, you can take that to the bank. That’a the cowboys and the hippies and the rebels and the yanks” – Charlie Daniels. This may not be the exact wording, but it gets the point across. War is the one thing that every person wants to avoid. Especially the front line soldiers. But if we had turned tail and wimpered away, how many other innocent people would have been killed (there were more than just Americans in the towers). I am proud to know that there are the brave men and women in the military that will stand up to the terrorists and take the fight to them and not wait for the fight to come to us. I pray for them every day, but I also know that not all will come home. No matter what our political beliefs, we need to support them.
Cliff Witkowski

Cliff Witkowski

Never forget, and don’t tread on us !

Steve Cardenas

Steve Cardenas

Right, let us NEVER FORGET…
Heather Ray

Heather Ray

I love this. It’s so great that they are using the beams from the twin towers to build something so magnificent. I will never forget where I was, what I was doing, or who the first person I called was. That day will stick with me forever. And I think it is great that we remember that day the way we do every year. I hope they never stop doing this for many years to come. Doug Peppers, I love that quote from Charlie Daniels. That is one of the best quotes that I have ever heard. Really sums up America. My thoughts and prayers go out everyday to my nephew who is serving in Iraq right now as a Marine and all those serving with him and their families. May they all come home safe to their loved ones.
Debbie Vaughn Edsall

Debbie Vaughn Edsall

This is very cool!!

Emma Lavonne Sullivan-Temple

Emma Lavonne Sullivan-Temple

This is awesome…there is no greater way to make a terrible situation…work out for the better good of man…PROUD TO BE AMERICAN>>AND VERY PROUD OF OUR MILITARY…YALL ARE ALWAYS IN MY PRAYERS..GOD BLESS
Devon Delaney

Devon Delaney

GOD BLESS AMERICA, GOD BLESS AMERICAN SOLDIERS!!! Our prayers are with those who lost loved ones on the day the world stopped turning.
Glenn Long

  • Theinitial numbers are indelible: 8:46 a.m. and 9:02 a.m. Time the burning towers stood: 56 minutes and 102 minutes. Time they took to fall: 12 seconds. From there, they ripple out.Total number killed in attacks (official figure as of 9/5/02): 2,819

    Number of firefighters and paramedics killed: 343

    Number of NYPD officers: 23

    Number of Port Authority police officers: 37

    Number of WTC companies that lost people: 60

    Number of employees who died in Tower One: 1,402

    Number of employees who died in Tower Two: 614

    Number of employees lost at Cantor Fitzgerald: 658

    Number of U.S. troops killed in Operation Enduring Freedom: 22

    Number of nations whose citizens were killed in attacks: 115

    Ratio of men to women who died: 3:1

    Age of the greatest number who died: between 35 and 39

    Bodies found “intact”: 289

    Body parts found: 19,858

    Number of families who got no remains: 1,717

    Estimated units of blood donated to the New York Blood Center: 36,000

Boston Paul

Boston Paul

A Glen thanks for the stats!As far as Forensics go though, someone should have let the boys do their work before they carted all the evidence away.

But that didn’t happen.

Robyn Nicodemus

Robyn Nicodemus

Sweet don’t forget, we never will. Do you remember where you where on that dreadful day. I do.
Antonio De Luca

Antonio De Luca

God bless this your big plan
Candice Joy Blake

Candice Joy Blake

As a Proud Navy Mom, I will never forget! GO NAVY!
Deborah Brazil

Deborah Brazil

Thank-you to all the service men and women for doing what they are doing!!!! WE DO APPRECIATE IT!!!!!!
Ben Bauman

Ben Bauman

To thecaptian and crew of the USS New York,,,,, Fair Winds and Following SeasFrom a former Marine
SEMPER FI

Steve Compton

Steve Compton

If you like this video of Grammy Award Winner and former Lead Singer of the group Shenandoah singing the Patriotic Song “A Day To Remember” please copy it and share it with all of your friends here on Facebook and your friends not on Facebook.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huAMk7LlL5Q

Boston Paul

Boston Paul

I was wondering if anyone thought it a bit odd, that the steel from the 911 tragedy was gathered up and sent out within a couple of weeks. Much of it was sold to China and some of it was used to make the USS New York.Ground Zero was a crime scene, no one is supposed to touch anything at a crime scene until forensics and other professionals have gathered all the evidence possible to determine what happened.

Cops/Forensics Officers will spend months, sometimes years investigating a murder of ONE person. They go back to the crime scene – left untouched – to gather as much evidence as they can, sometimes the scene is left alone just in case there is new evidence to be found. How is it then that the murder of 3000 people was investigated for less than a couple of weeks and then much of the crime scene’s evidence (the steel) was sold to a Communist country?…

Food for thought.

September 18, 2009 at 12:12pm ·
Boston Paul

Boston Paul

I seethat that no one else thinks this is odd at all.Would still like to hear some of your thoughts.

~None ever came~

Politics: Military News Network Dialogue~ TOPIC: Photos from the Frontlines/January 20, 2010

This thread is an interesting one.

Observe the reactions/responses of Patriots (often Conservative, Fundamentalist, Protestant Christian somehow connected to the Military) when asked about America’s Wars in The Middle East.

We pray that they do not represent the majority of Americans.

In this thread, observe the reactions of the ‘Patriots’ when I ask why we are in the Middle East. Not one of them answers my Questions. I am trying to get my head around how me asking a simple Question: ‘Why is the U.S. in is in the Middle East’ equates with ‘not Supporting the Troops’.

Interesting Read…

Read on…

Thread from MNN:

  • MilitaryNewsNetwork.com says new photos from the frontlines includes Soldiers from the 4th and 17th Cavalry Regiments and the 501st Infantry Regiment, Marines at Observation Post Huskars, Marines of 2/2, and more!
GOD BLESS THE TROOPS! keep watch of them and bring them all home safely !
 
 
Pat Heine
Bold, brave,best, the three words to describe our troops. Be safe we love you, we pray for you come home soon and be safe.
 
 
Jeanna East
God Bless them all for keeping us safe every day………….
 
 
Boston Paul
Greetings Jeanna!

Could you (or anyone else) give any examples of how The Military is keeping us safe everyday?

Much appreciated!

 
 
Gordy Parks
come on? If you don’t know by now, they could bite you in the a– and you still wouldn’t get it.
 
 
Ann P. Lee
You know Boston Paul if you don’t like what our military personnel do by leaving their families & going to foreign soil to protect our borders from afar, and help rid those countries of the the Al-Quaeda/Taliban morons, then you need to get off your ASS & move to another country! Stop berating families who care for this country AND LOVE THEIR LOVED ONES & WHO BELIEVE IN GOD, not some metaphysical being! I am the grandmother of a 20-yr. old Marine and don’t tolerate you peace loving hippie styles!
 
Carl Hendricks
Ann P. Lee, BRAVO ZULU!
 
 
Lisa Governo
God Bless You Ann P. Lee…I agree with you, Boston Paul has no right to call himself an American…move to Afghanistan and maybe you’d appreciate our soldiers. My son is in Afghanistan fighting for your freedom and I can’t believe there are people like you who don’t appreciate the sacrifices they and their families make, just hoping they will come home safe. Boston Paul you should be ashamed of yourself!
 
*My Note: I asked a Question.  Why should I be ashamed of myself for asking a Question?
 

Boston Paul

Greetings all.
None of you have answered my Question.

If you feel I am not a Good American (UNAmerican), you must also feel that Thomas Jefferson was UnAmerican as well.

Thomas Jefferson gave us the Go Ahead on asking Questions like this.

I served my Country with the élite 82nd Airborne Division for 4 years.

I am a combat vet.

Call me a Militant Hippie then.

 
😉

Bombarding people with Nationalistic Rhetoric (as you have done) to People who ask questions is Un American.

Freedom of Speech and Freedom to Question the Government. The U.S. Constitution &  Bill of Rights demands this.

Ann P.: You don’t like Peace Lovers (be them Hippie or not)?

 
Interesting.
 

That answers my question in part then.

Would anyone care to give me intelligent answers to my Questions?

(I have added a couple more)

1. How is the American Military protecting our Freedoms in another country?

2. Why is the US Military in The Middle East in the first place?

3. Where are you getting your Information concerning Military Activities in the Middle East?

I do appreciate your thoughtful responses.

 
 
Debra Northcross
thank you for all youve done in keeping us safe
 
 
Bertha Ward
May God bless and protect all our troops firhting for our
country.
 

Boston Paul

Lisa, I was in Afghanistan in the 80’s when America was ‘friends’ with the Taliban.

Then, the Taliban were called the Mujahideen.

Does anyone remember the Rambo Movie when he was fighting with the ‘Freedom Fighters’ against Russia?

Well that was Rambo helping out the Mujahideen that later became the Taliban.

Does anyone here know the history of Afghanistan?

Have you thought about how one minute they can be friends of the US and the next they are foe?

Is there anyone here on this thread intelligent enough to discuss my questions above?

Don’t we all want Truth? In the Search for Truth, we must all agree to disagree.

There is no need for mudslinging and name calling in scholarly discourse.

Why did the American Government Invade (and are now Occupying) countries in the Middle East?

Are you a real American? Then ask these Questions and find Answers!

This is what Real Americans do.

The Fathers of America demanded this.

 
They included it in our Constitution and our Bill of Rights.

Stop with the Fox News dribble, the Glenn Beck Spew and all that other Ridiculous Rhetoric many of you regurgitate from the Corporate Media.

Think for yourselves. The ‘Fathers’ of America did.

 
 
Boston Paul
As usual, the silent ‘moral majority’ is silent.

bostonpaul.wordpress.com

 
 
Steve George
I respect those soldiers who think they are fighting for freedom. With those brave young Americans in mind I think the question is important – how are they keeping us safe?

They are being treated unfairly and lied to by their own government.

It’s not their fault.

The government is risking the lives of the soldiers that so many of you know and love. I think that you owe it to your loved ones to question your government. Support the troops and keep them from unnecessary harm and danger.

The US military is not keeping America safe by invading other countries.

They are Stirring hatred and creating terrorism – desperate, angry people from war ravaged countries are going to fight back.

I’m sure that most of you would prefer that your loved ones were at home instead of overseas fighting. So would I.

Ann, was that some sort of typo, or did you really say that you don’t tolerate peace-lovers? Shouldn’t we all hope for Peace, even if we disagree about how to achieve it?

 

Politics: Military News Network Dialogue Week of January 19 ~ 25, 2010

 

MNN’s POST:

  • MilitaryNewsNetwork.com has new photos of our troops working hard in Afghanistan to help keep America safe and secure.

  

  

Toni Wooten-Lutz
God Bless all of you!!! You are all in my thoughts and prayers for a safe homecoming! Prayers to all of the families as well! Thank you for protecting America!!!
 
 
Jen Barnard Kopser
Thank you to all of our service members. Semper Paratus (USCG)
 
 
Boston Paul
“has new photos of our troops working hard in Afghanistan to help keep America safe and secure.”

Could anyone give any examples of how The Military is protecting America and keeping us safe?

Much appreciated!

 
Darlene Ireland Curott
God Bless all our troops and their families and bring them home safe. We don’t know all of you but we know your hearts and souls by your sacrifices and Thank you every day in our prayers
 
 
Kwinn Sutton
you see, years ago terrorists flew two planes into the twin towers. yeah. so we invaded the countries with terrorists in them to take them out so they dont attack us. its called defending ourselves.
 
 
John Bettis
God Bless each and every one of our troops and thank you for keeping us free you are all in my prayers
 
 
Boston Paul
Greetings Kwinn! Besides Fox News and any of the corporate media outlets, do you have any evidence?

Who were the Terrorists that flew the planes into the Towers?

Why did America Invade Iraq then? 

Iraq had nothing to do with 911.
America invaded the country of Iraq under suspicion that they ‘might’ have weapons of mass destruction (again NOT because of 911).

Weapons were never found.

Why is the US still Occupying this country then?

Appreciate the thoughtful response.

 
 
LaTonia Huckabee
Ok Boston Bettis , you sound like a muslim loving freak , why dont you go and stand in front of our troops you idiot and see how much love those murders give you . YOU ARE DISPICABLE get off the computer before you really piss me off !!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 
Linda Yaeger
LaTonia be respectful of others and it migt help us all. Not everyone who ha an opinion is a lover of an enemy and not every Muslim is a terrorist. That kind of thinking creates wars nd I love and respect te troops too much to put them in more harms way because of thet kind of dislike/hate.
 
 
LiAnna Mearing
Ok BOSTON, Seriously if you don’t like what we are doing why don’t you go over and try to reason with them. I wouldn’t mind you standing between my husband and the enemies guns!!!!!!! Lets see if they listen to you or just shoot you in the face! I bet they don’t give two shits about what you would have to say.
 
 
LaTonia Huckabee
I dont repect any one that dont know who flew the planes into the towers , did you read his comment ! Maybe you should re read it , and if you think it puts our troops in harms way for me not to like muslims , then maybe you better rethink a few things ,do you think they love you ? I have a grandson in the Military that has been to Iraq to protect the rights of idiots to say stupid things , does that ring a bell ?
 
 
Boston Paul
Thank you Linda and very well said.

Greetings LaTonia.

LaTonia, you did not answer my questions and calling people names gets us no where in scholarly discourse.

Do you think you could mull it over a bit LaTonia?

A real American asks Questions like these. The Fathers of America encouraged that we always question our government.

Most American do not really know why we are there.

I would like to here your thoughts.

We all want Peace (one hopes). We all want to get our Troops back on American Soil. We should find ways to do that, and one way to get them home is to ask, why are they there in the first place?

Your Thoughts?

 
Today at 12:42pm ·
Boston Paul
LaTonia, I thought I would also leave this link for you:

bostonpaul.wordpress.com

Dialogue between us might be a little bit better once you read the bio and understand who you are discussing these questions with.

Peace.

 
 
Boston Paul
LaTonia. You have not answered the Question my Fellow Patriot.

Could you please humor me and tell me who was responsible for flying those planes into the towers, and please include a source.

Fox news and the like are not reliable sources.

Explain also how Troops in Iraq are fighting for freedom of speech i.e. “the rights of idiots to say stupid things”

I am enjoying the discourse with you in our pursuit of Truth.

 
 
Gregg Graham
Thank You! For it is upon your shoulders that we are able to walk free!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 
Joy Ce Jones Sherman
Hey, do us all a favor here in the USA, stay in Taiwan.
 
 
Deb Cedergren
GOD BLESS ALL OF OUR SOLDIERS.
 
Kay Collins
If it isn,t Boston its David,let us military families get our military news,with out your jackass opinion,and pass along blessings to the troops!
 
 
Boston Paul
  • Greetings Kay. Actually, I have not given an opinion, jack-ass or otherwise. I asked a few questions (see above) and still no one has been able to answer them.

    I have been posting here for a few months, I have asked this question quite a few times, and so far no one has answered the questions I ask. Why not?

    Real Americans Question their Government.

    Here are a few quotes from someone we all know:

    “The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it always to be kept alive.”

    “The will of the people is the only legitimate foundation of any government, and to protect its free expression should be our first object.”

    “Conquest is not in our principles. It is inconsistent with our government.”

    “Educate and inform the whole mass of the people… They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty.”

    “I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.”

    “That government is best which governs the least, because its people discipline themselves”

    “War is an instrument entirely inefficient toward redressing wrong; and multiplies, instead of indemnifying losses. “

    “When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty”

    ~All Quotes: Thomas Jefferson.

    AGAIN:

    Why is America in Iraq?

    Why is America in Afghanistan?

    Explain how American Troops are protecting our Freedoms by invading and Occupying 2 countries?

    Fellow Patriots: Your Thoughts?

 

 

Boston Paul

  • Here are a couple more…

    “Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?”

    “America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.”

    Abraham Lincoln

    Knowledge is Power.

    Always Question Authority.

 
Elaina Jordan Robinson
I wish everyone piece of mind and to believe that your families are holding it down for u. There is support here and we will not let u down. Be safe and thank you.
 
 
LaTonia Huckabee
I will leave one last comment as too the idiots writing here , like Boston Paul and Linda , do not call me your fellow patriot, we have different beliefs and you sound like an uninformed pholosipher on crack . Keep your stupid remarks to yourself . OUR TROOPS ARE THE GREATEST IN THE WORLD AND DONT NEED STUPID COMMENTS BY YOU OR ANY OTHER NUT CASE . GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS AND KEEP THEM SAFE …OOHRAH
 
 
Kay Collins
Boston I did not or choose not come to this site to answer your questions,I don,t owe you any answers,once again let us get our military news and send our blessings to the troops!So what is your point of your input,my opinion to argue or debate your thoughts,I think u are a jackass and thats my opinion,just as you have yours,
 
 
Boston Paul
Kay, Latonia, I am simply asking questions. Which to date, no one has actually answered. I have not stated any opinions. I have not said anything negative about the Troops.

And speaking of the Troops…

I know all about the Soldier and their lives and the Sacrifices they make. I was in the 82nd Airborne for 4 years and I am a combat vet. Kay and LaTonia, I assume neither of you have ever been in Combat (and though you may have loved ones in the Sandbox and emotions run high, you will never know what we Troopers go through)…. See More

The beauty of a Child is that they are never afraid to ask questions. We lose that as adults. I’m not sure why. But perhaps it is because when someone does ask a Question, they are berated, ridiculed and scorned.

I ask anyway. As we all should.

Indeed Kay, you did not come to this site to answer my questions, you could have ignored me completely as most have done in this thread. You don’t owe me any answers, but you did choose to engage, spew your sentiment and yet still not address the very direct Questions that I have asked.

LaTonia, ‘Uninformed Philosopher on Crack’. Well done! I am using this one. That being said, since I am uninformed, I am asking these questions… perhaps someone could inform me?

Bring me up to speed?

I have been living abroad for a good many years and am trying to get my head around these Questions – see above.

Peace and Much Love to all of you.

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