BREAKING! Vietnam Veteran’s dying wish: To find his Son & Lost Love in Taiwan即時新聞! 越戰退伍老兵臨終前的願望:找到在台灣的昔日戀人,還有他從未謀面的兒子

Picture of Harvey Woods

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(Center) Harvey Woods,  (Right) Ming Ying Chi AKA Kiko, (Left) Ming’s Younger Sister

1. Introduction
2. The Story
3. The Facts & Clues
4. Chinese Translation (中文)
https://bostonpaul.wordpress.com/2016/03/27/breaking-vietnam-veterans-dying-wish-to-find-his-son-lost-love-in-taiwan%E5%8D%B3%E6%99%82%E6%96%B0%E8%81%9E-%E8%B6%8A%E6%88%B0%E9%80%80%E4%BC%8D%E8%80%81%E5%85%B5%E8%87%A8%E7%B5%82-2/

5. Update Record

https://bostonpaul.wordpress.com/2016/03/27/breaking-vietnam-veterans-dying-wish-to-find-his-son-lost-love-in-taiwan%E5%8D%B3%E6%99%82%E6%96%B0%E8%81%9E-%E8%B6%8A%E6%88%B0%E9%80%80%E4%BC%8D%E8%80%81%E5%85%B5%E8%87%A8%E7%B5%82-2/

1. Introduction

I got a private message on social media asking for help. A woman named Leah from North Carolina (USA) asked if I could help find her brother whom she had never met. Leah’s father, now in his golden years, has been searching for them both since 1968 to no avail.

But now we have the power of the internet!

Boston Paul and Shaun Bettinson are in constant contact with the family and are updating everyday.

即時新聞! 越戰退伍老兵臨終前的願望:找到在台灣的昔日戀人,還有他從未謀面的兒子

This is an ongoing story and will be updated as more information is given.

請幫忙廣發此帖,但願能早日找到她母子倆,謝謝 !

 (This story has been updated 5x)

2. The Story
(Chinese coming soon/中文翻譯中)

Harvey Woods left Atlanta, Georgia with the Air force in 1966 and arrived in Taiwan as an Airmen 2nd Class attached to Detachment 3 / 2165 Communications Squadron. He was stationed at Qinquan Air Force Base (清泉崗空軍基地, CCK) during the Vietnam War. Many Americans in the military were stationed in Taiwan while the US was fighting the North Vietnamese.

During his tenure with the Airforce in Taichung, Harvey had met a local girl named Ming Ying-chi (It could be Ming Ying-chi or Chi Ming-ying as it is customary for Chinese to write their surname first but are known put it last when dealing with Westerners). Harvey had nicknamed Ms. Ming Kiko and she affectionately referred to him as Mr. Woods. They lived in the same apartment building and they soon developed a relationship.  Kiko lived with her younger sister (shown in the picture) and a daughter who would have been about 6 or 7 years old then (making her mid-50s now). Harvey and Kiko fell in love during his stay in Taiwan and when the Airforce reassigned Harvey in 1967, he tried to take Kiko back to the United States with him – but a war, two reluctant governments and red tape prevented that from happening.  

Kiko traveled with Harvey to Taipei to catch his flight out of Taiwan. He had just learned that she was pregnant with his child – making it that much more painful to leave. He vowed that once he was Stateside, he would do what he could to get them to the USA and would support them in the meantime.

As he was about to board that military plane and leave his love and unborn son, Harvey and Kiko kissed, hugged and then Kiko’s Mr. Woods reluctantly boarded the plane. As the plane taxied on the runway, Harvey kept his eyes fixed on Kiko waving to him. And as the plane took off, Harvey could see her still waving. It was a very long, heartbreaking ride back to the other side of the world.

Whilst stateside – and one should not forget that correspondence by hand-written or typed letters (AKA snail-mail) and telephone were the only ways of communicating long distance back then – Harvey received his first letter from Kiko. He responded immediately. Kiko wrote again some time later telling him she had given birth to a baby boy. He wrote her back ever-hopeful that they would be reunited. He was ecstatic… a baby boy!

As fate would have it – that was the last known letter he’d ever receive from Kiko.  Adding insult to injury,  Harvey’s mother – perhaps a bit overprotective and wanting her son to get on with his life after the war – destroyed both letters (and presumably any other letters he did not know about) with Kiko’s return address on it thus all the clues that would have had helped him find them.  Harvey’s mother would also not tell him the name of his son… all vital information went up in smoke and with Harvey’s mother to her grave. Everything he had from Kiko was destroyed except that one black and white picture as something told him to put the picture in a safe place.

Saddened by losing his love and not able to meet his son, Harvey was determined to move on with his life and married an American girl almost a decade later. But he never stopped longing to meet his son and show him that he loves him. He never lost hope that they would meet one day. Over the years, he had put out several ads in various newspapers in Taichung, but his many attempts proved futile.

After many years of keeping this story hidden from his family, Harvey Woods – in desperation – told his now grown up daughter Leah and her siblings the whole story of their brother in Taiwan. He implored them to please help find his son before he dies.

Harvey understands that Kiko also had to move on with her life and could be afraid of coming forward if she hears this story. Harvey understands she may be married or unwilling to see him… as 1970s low-tech communications, over-protective mothers, governmental red-tape, vast oceans, unforeseen problems, language barriers, and other obstacles had come between them.  

It’s been almost fifty years and Harvey’s life has been a roller coaster ride since the Vietnam War. Like many Vietnam vets, he’s had bouts with alcohol helping drown his sorrows, drown the guilt, drown the longing. He’s overcome all that now and is determined to keep looking for his son.. and at his age, this may be his last chance.

When asked what he will do if we find his son and his once-upon-a-time love, he answered, “I want to apologize to Kiko from the bottom of my heart and to make it known to her that I never forgot about our son…. and that I have never forgotten about her.” 

Understandably, if Kiko is reluctant or unable to come forward, we ask that if anyone knows Kiko and/or her son, please let them know that Harvey Woods is looking for them and wishes them well. At the very least, he desires to know if his son is OK.

As Harvey lives the final chapters of his life, he desires closure… so that he may truly rest in Peace.

Please SHARE and SPREAD THE WORD, any information is welcome!

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3. The Facts & Clues

 ATTENTION Fellow Detectives and Sleuths in the Community!

Here is what we have for you so far:

The Mother:

Name: Ming Ying Chi 紀 明 櫻/possibly Chi Ming-Ying
Nickname: Kiko

*Taiwanese Chinese
*Age: 70-71 years old
*Spoke enough English to communicate
*Presumably, if she is still alive, she may still live in Taichung
*Has a daughter now in her mid 50s.

The Father:

Name: Harvey Woods

*From Atlanta, Georgia (Before and after military service)
*US Air Force stationed at Qinquan Air Force Base Taichung, Taiwan during the Vietnam War from 1966 – 1967
*His Commander’s name in Taiwan was Capt. Robert O. Bissey.
*His supervisor was Sgt. Flemings
*Harvey had two roommates in Taiwan:
Sgt. Flemings (his supervisor)
Airman 1st Class Tombs.

Their Son:

Name: Not Known

*Biracial – Taiwanese – Chinese/African-American
*Approx. 47-48 years old
*May have green eyes as Harvey’s other sons have green eyes.

Ming’s Younger Sister (in picture on the left):

*No Information

 4. Chinese Translation (中文)

https://bostonpaul.wordpress.com/2016/03/27/breaking-vietnam-veterans-dying-wish-to-find-his-son-lost-love-in-taiwan%E5%8D%B3%E6%99%82%E6%96%B0%E8%81%9E-%E8%B6%8A%E6%88%B0%E9%80%80%E4%BC%8D%E8%80%81%E5%85%B5%E8%87%A8%E7%B5%82-2/

年起,他一直在找照片右邊的女士.她的名字是MING YING CHI (Surname or ?),她能說英語,現今應該約70歲了。

我爸當年是美國空軍一員,越戰時期曾駐台中,他很愛她,也很想把她帶回美國,可是那時 候情況不容許。她曾寫過一封信給我爸說她有了他的孩子,是個混血兒, 現年約47-48歲,因為我爸跟別人結婚 了,我祖母沒把信交出,當然也沒給他MING的回郵地址或孩子的名字。 我爸曾連續幾年在台的報紙刊登尋人廣告,可是音訊全無。他自1968年一直在尋找MING和他倆的孩子…最近,他跟我及他其他孩子說出這個故事,希望 我們能在他死前幫他找到她和那孩子。照片中左邊的是MING的姊妹…抱歉,我也沒有她的名字。

請幫忙廣發此帖,但願能早日找到她母子倆,謝謝您們!

大 家好!在照片中間的男士是我的父親,在右手邊的女士是我父親從1968到現在一直再尋找的人。她的名字是“Ming Ying Chi”(翻譯者的我在想因是羅馬通用譯語),我父親給她的小名是“Kiko”。現在的她約為70-71歲,會說英文,我父親非常愛她,也曾想把她帶回美 國,但當時情況不容許。她曾寫信過給我父親,告訴他,她生下了他們倆的孩子(男生為台灣-非洲美國裔,現今年齡約為47-48歲),後來我父親跟別人結婚 了,當時我祖母沒把信轉交給他,並且也沒告訴我父親Ming的回信地址及小孩的名字。我父親曾登報協尋過,但始終無音訊。從1968到現在,我父親一直再 尋找“Ming Ying Chi ”,及他們的兒子。最近他告訴我們這些孩子,希望他在臨終前幫他找到他們倆。而在圖當中的左邊是Ming的姐妹,但我不知道她的名字。

※如果,有人在台中,有任何他們的消息,請幫助我,取得聯繫他們,我由衷萬分的感謝

During the Vietnam War an Airman in the Air force was stationed in Taichung, Taiwan. He fell in love with a Woman. She was unable to go back to the US with him, then gave birth to their son… he’s been looking for them ever since.

Translations by:

Posted Soon!

This is an ongoing story please check back every day as there will be UPDATES…

You are also welcome to leave information, ideas, links, and clues in the comments.

 

5. UPDATE RECORD

 

March 27:  THE SEARCH CONTINUES!  THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR INPUT, LINKS, CONNECTIONS, IDEAS AND LOVE… KEEP IT COMING!  加油 !

 

4. Update: March 27, 2016 – 2:00PM
3. Update: March 25, 2016 – 1:00PM
2.Update: March 23, 2016 – 11:15PM
1. Update: March 23, 2016 – 3:00PM

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True Story: Vietnam Veteran searches for his Son. This story has been updated please go to new link

This story has been updated. We are still searching!

Here’s the New Link:

https://bostonpaul.wordpress.com/2016/03/27/breaking-vietnam-veterans-dying-wish-to-find-his-son-lost-love-in-taiwan%E5%8D%B3%E6%99%82%E6%96%B0%E8%81%9E-%E8%B6%8A%E6%88%B0%E9%80%80%E4%BC%8D%E8%80%81%E5%85%B5%E8%87%A8%E7%B5%82-2/

A Vietnam Vet in his seventies is searching for his son whom he’s never met and the mother of his son whom he was once in love.

He’s been searching since 1968 to no avail.. but now we have the power of the internet.

This is an Ongoing story and will be updated as more information is given.

請幫忙廣發此帖,但願能早日找到她母子倆,謝謝 !

 (This story has been updated 3x)

3/25 (FRIDAY):  WE HAVE NEW INFORMATION AND IT WILL BE UPDATED IN THE NEXT 24 HOURS… THE SEARCH CONTINUES!  THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR INPUT, LINKS, CONNECTIONS, IDEAS AND LOVE… KEEP IT COMING!  加油 !

 

Picture of Harvey Woods

(Center) Harvey Woods,  (Right) Ming Ying Chi AKA Kiko, (Left) Ming’s Younger Sister

I got a private message on social media asking for help. A woman named Leah from North Carolina asked if I could help find her brother whom she had never met. Her father, now in his golden years, wishes to find his long lost love and their son… before he dies.

The Community has come together and the search is on!
(Please scroll down for Chinese).

The Story

His name was Harvey Woods and he arrived in Taiwan in 1966. He was stationed at Qinquan Air Force Base (清泉崗空軍基地, CCK) in Taichung.  This was during the Vietnam War and many Americans in the military were stationed here in Taiwan.

Harvey was an Airmen 2nd Class and was attached to Detachment 3 / 2165 Communications Squadron.
His Commander’s name was Capt. Robert O. Bissey.
Harvey had two roommates: Sgt. Flemings (who was also his supervisor) and Airman 1st Class Tombs.

 

During his tenure in Taichung, Harvey had met Ming Ying Chi (We are not sure if it is Ming Ying-chi  or Chi Ming Ying as it is customary for Chinese to write their surname first but sometimes put it last when dealing with Westerners). They all lived in the same apartment building. Kiko lived with her younger sister (shown in the picture) and a daughter who would have been about 6 or 7 years old then making her in her early 50s now.

He had nicknamed her Kiko and she affectionately referred to him as Mr. Woods.

They fell in love during his stay here and when Harvey left in 1967, he tried to take Kiko back to the United States with him.. but to no avail.

Harvey Woods is from Atlanta, Georgia and that is where he returned after Vietnam

Even whilst Stateside he tried to locate Kiko to join him in the US, but his attempts were futile.  Over the years, he had put out several ads in various newspapers in Taichung, but got no responses.

Saddened by losing his love but determined to move on with his life, he was to marry an American girl. That is when he learned that in 1968 Kiko had given birth to his son.

Kiko had written a letter to Harvey to tell him of the birth.  Unfortunately for Harvey and Kiko,  Harvey’s mother – perhaps a bit overprotective and wanting her son to get on with his life after the war – destroyed the one letter with Kiko’s return address on it thus all the clues that would have had helped find them.  Harvey’s mother would also not tell him the name of his son.

Finally, in desperation, Harvey told his daughter Leah and her siblings the whole story of their brother in Taiwan and asked if they could help…. he implored them to please help find his long lost love and their son before he dies.

Leah then got in touch with me through a PM – and others through the various social network groups.  We’ve all come together and now the search is on!

What We Know:

Kiko spoke a little English and would now be in her early seventies. Presumably, if she is still alive, she lives in Taichung.

Harvey and Kiko’s son would be bi-racial  (Chinese/African American) and approximately 47 years old.

 ATTENTION Fellow Detectives and Sleuths in the Community!

Here is what we have for you so far:

Looking for:

  1. The Mother: Ming Ying Chi 紀 明 櫻/possibly Chi Ming-Ying
    Nickname Kiko

    Approx: 70-71 years old
    Spoke enough English to communicate
  2. The Father: Harvey Woods
    From Atlanta, Georgia (Before and after military service)

    US Air Force stationed at Qinquan Air Force Base in Taichung, Taiwan during the     Vietnam War from 1966 – 1967.
    His Commander’s name was Capt. Robert O. Bissey.
    His supervisor was Sgt. Flemings
    His roommate was Airman 1st Class Tombs.
  3. Their son: Biracial – Taiwanese/African-American
    Approx. 47-48 years old
  4. Ming’s Younger Sister (in picture on the left): no other information

 

CHINESE TRANSLATION

大 家好!在照片中央的是我爸爸,自1968年起,他一直在找照片右邊的女士.她的名字是MING YING CHI (Surname 明 or ?),她能說英語,現今應該約70歲了。

我爸當年是美國空軍一員,越戰時期曾駐台中,他很愛她,也很想把她帶回美國,可是那時候情況不容許。她曾寫過一封信給我爸說她有了他的孩子,是個混血兒,現年約47-48歲,因為我爸跟別人結婚 了,我祖母沒把信交出,當然也沒給他MING的回郵地址或孩子的名字。 我爸曾連續幾年在台的報紙刊登尋人廣告,可是音訊全無。他自1968年一直在尋找MING和他倆的孩子…最近,他跟我及他其他孩子說出這個故事,希望 我們能在他死前幫他找到她和那孩子。照片中左邊的是MING的姊妹…抱歉,我也沒有她的名字。

請幫忙廣發此帖,但願能早日找到她母子倆,謝謝您們!

大 家好!在照片中間的男士是我的父親,在右手邊的女士是我父親從1968到現在一直再尋找的人。她的名字是“Ming Ying Chi”(翻譯者的我在想因是羅馬通用譯語),我父親給她的小名是“Kiko”。現在的她約為70-71歲,會說英文,我父親非常愛她,也曾想把她帶回美 國,但當時情況不容許。她曾寫信過給我父親,告訴他,她生下了他們倆的孩子(男生為台灣-非洲美國裔,現今年齡約為47-48歲),後來我父親跟別人結婚 了,當時我祖母沒把信轉交給他,並且也沒告訴我父親Ming的回信地址及小孩的名字。我父親曾登報協尋過,但始終無音訊。從1968到現在,我父親一直再尋找“Ming Ying Chi ”,及他們的兒子。最近他告訴我們這些孩子,希望他在臨終前幫他找到他們倆。而在圖當中的左邊是Ming的姐妹,但我不知道她的名字。

※如果,有人在台中,有任何他們的消息,請幫助我,取得聯繫他們,我由衷萬分的感謝※

During the Vietnam War an Airman in the Air force was stationed in Taichung, Taiwan. He fell in love with a Woman. She was unable to go back to the US with him, then gave birth to their son… he’s been looking for them ever since.

Translations by:

Marya C. Mocha and Jill Chung and Eddie Lin

This is an ongoing story please check back every day as there will be UPDATES…

You are also welcome to leave information in the comments.

 

UPDATES
3. LAST UPDATE: March 25, 2016 1:00PM
2.Update: March 23, 2016 11:15PM
1. Update: March 23, 3:00PM

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Parasites, Fucktwits & Today’s Lesson in Irony (Working Title)

This little Propaganda Meme touted notably by Republicans (and CHRISTIANS no less!) Annette Bosworth (South Dakota) and Matt Gaetz (Florida) has been making its rounds on the internet lately and this is why it is a FISM (Fucking Ignorant Stupid Meme). Here it is – try reading it without grimacing:

TODAY’S LESSONS IN IRONY The Food Stamp Program is administered by the U.S. department of agriculture. They proudly report that they distribute free meals and food stamps to over 46 million people on an annual basis. Meanwhile, The National Park Service, run by the Department of the Interior asks us, “PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE ANIMALS” Their stated reason for this policy being that: “The Animals will grow dependent on the handouts and then they will never learn to take care of themselves.” THIS CONCLUDES TODAY’S LESSON – ANY QUESTIONS?

There are so many things wrong with this Meme, I don’t even know where to begin. But I’ll begin here: Let’s think about this statement Logically, Rationally & Intelligently.

First of all, though it might be debatable that our species is the most intelligent species on the planet, the comparison being made here is between our species and the Animal Kingdom. From the start this is demeaning and should already being raising an eye-brow or two.

Let’s first discuss the animals. Animals instinctively know how to forage for food. If food is becoming scarce in these parks there is human intervention, so the animals are going to be OK. The animals (and the rest of Nature in the Park) are protected. That’s the whole point of a National Fucking Park. Thus the Animals may not be getting handouts from Cheery Park Goers, but they are being taken care of.

Another reason why they don’t want people to feed the animals is because people are fucking stupid and will feed the animals stupid shit that they would not normally eat in the wild… they left that one out in this meme too.

In the wild, animals have to survive and will do anything to do so. Humans are no different. We will also do what we can to survive (and the government and the corporations that control it, make it more and more difficult to do so). Now while I agree that there are humans that abuse Government Assistance – most of these humans getting this assistance DO need it and it’s not because they are lazy… What they don’t tell you is that about three-quarters you know, 75 F#$%^ING percent of all food stamp households include a child, an elderly person, or a disabled person, and those households receive 83% of all SNAP benefits (this is according to a nonprofit group called Feeding America… look it up).

The US Government (and there is no real distinction between Right and Left), is trying to blame the woes and ills of society on what they refer to as parasites milking the system. When in fact, the government has created these woes and ills. but… (and here’s where we have to be rational): We are taught in school that if we do well, if we do everything they say, we can get out and get a good job. That may have been true at one point in our history, but it ain’t no more… I know people that graduated from University were looking for jobs and ended up having to get assistance – and that’s with a degree – until they found something. I know many more who left the US (the Land of Milk & Honey and Streets Paved with Gold, my ass) and go to other countries where quality of life is better.

HERE IS THE REAL IRONY: Didn’t the American government hand over BILLIONS of dollars to the RICH to bail them out from their own incompetence? Let me answer that. Yes, they did. A lot more than what they give the people that get government assistance (the children, the disabled and the elderly… you know that 75% I mentioned above). So we should not be pissed off at roughly 15% (did the math in my head) of the people (46 million out of 317.8 million) in the US getting some form of welfare, we should be Fucking Outraged that Tax Dollars are going to BAIL OUT FUCKING RICH PEOPLE!

Isn’t the US Government spending TRILLIONS of dollars to support Corporations while they make bullets and bombs and ‘rebuild’ countries that their bullets and bombs have devastated? WHERE OH WHERE ARE THE GOVERNMENT’S PRIORITIES? Are they over there? No? Over here? Under there? 46 million out of 317.8 million. That about 15% of the Population. That’s not a big number as far as tax payer dollars go. And while stats may fluctuate here and there, it’s certainly not THE SAME PEOPLE year after year. There are so many factors not to mention demographics. Where did these very broad stats come from? Has anyone asked themselves what state has the most percentage of those needing government assistance and why?

Detroit’s economy for example, once thriving, is in dire-straits because the automobile industry is moving their factories off shore i.e. out of the US. Do you think that those hard working laborers working in the auto industry are enjoying being on government assistance? Let’s use our Fucking Heads here, shall we Annette & Matt? Is it the fault of the good people from Detroit who worked in the auto-industry that they have no money to buy stuff they need to ‘survive’? Or is it the fault of the Corporations who moved their businesses to other countries for the cheaper labor; non-existent laws to protect the workers AKA Modern Day Slaves; and the lax rules on pollution and other bits?

Who are the real bad guys here?

Even if one wants to start their own business, the US government – and the Corporations that control it – do not favor small businesses. The red tape, the taxes and ridiculous laws for starting up a business in the US make it very difficult to succeed unless you do it under the table… WHICH I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO DO. The Public Education System (PES) does not get the Youth in the US of A ready for the real world, instead it gives them Test after Test (not real learning) to make sure they are good little robots. In other words programming, in other words Indoctrination, in other words the schools in the US are producing a bunch dummies that know how to obey, but hardly know how to think for themselves. Then they ‘graduate’ and get a ‘job’ –  if they’re lucky – which are often menial tasks that require just enough brain power needed to get the job done. Perhaps they went to a vocational school. Perhaps they went on to University… but what’s left for them when they are ready to hit the job market?

Perhaps the PES should teach children about health, about growing their own food and making their own clothes and most importantly Critical & Creative Thinking and THINKING FOR THEMSELVES (instead of being told what to think). But ALAS! these Independent Creative Critical Thinkers would not need the government so much, they would not need to buy all the shit they do as Consumers or worst of all, they would be questioning the government’s actions as an intelligent, rational, Citizens.

But they (The Government and The Corporations that control the government) don’t want this.

They want Ignorant Dumb-Asses that do what they’re told and are easy to control (Classic Sun Zi The Art of War – keep the populace Ignorant!).

They want We The People to CONSUME and DEPEND ON THEM.

The problem is not the people on welfare, that’s only a small percentage of the budget. The Problem is the system and the Masterful Fucktards running it.

Don’t fall for the Propaganda…  don’t believe the Hype.

Question Authority.

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Boston Paul AKA The Militant Hippi: Short History

Boston Paul

 

  • Boston Paul left home when he was 16.
  • Hitchhiked across Amerika when he was 17.
  • Joined the Military when he was 18.
    • He ’served’ in the elite 82nd Airborne Division
    • The 82nd Airborne is based out of Fort Bragg, North Carolina.

POST MILITARY

  • Began doing Police Work & Armed Security in the City of Boston (1990 -1995).
  • Joined the National Guard in 1990. Discharged in 1994.
  • Attended the University of Massachusetts (Boston) 1990 – 1994.
    • Majored in English & Philosophy.
    • Minored in East Asian Studies & Creative Writing.
  • Visited Taiwan for the first time during the Summer of 1993.
    • He was part of the Chinese Language Program at Donghai University.
  • 1994 return to Taiwan for another Summer.
  • Moved to Taiwan in January,1995 and never looked back.

Taiwan

  • 1995: Moved to Taiwan
    • Opened Boston English School, July the same year
    • By 1999: opened 3 English schools in the cities of Taichung, Zhuo-lan, Xinshe
    • Through Boston English School, he began editing/translating English/Chinese.
  • 1996 opened an Entertainment Company.
    • Was an Exotic Dancer until 2005.

English Editing:

His Clients include(d):

  • Various Taiwanese Machine Company Magazines: Articles/Manuals
  • Taiwanese High School/University Students: Essays/Reports
  • Assistant Curator of the Botany Department @ the Taichung Science Museum/PhD Paper on the Begonia Parvula
  • Horticulture/Botany Professor @Zhong-xin University
    • Eulophia graminea orchid for Plant Science Journal
    • Erycina pusilla orchid for PhD. Thesis
  • 2000: Began focusing on Music.
  • 2002: Started the Band ‘Native Space’
  • 2004: Began writing for The Taichung Voice Magazine
  • 2004: Opened The Refuge officially.
  • 2005: Became a Father and had his World rocked
  • 2006: Started the band ‘Militant Hippi’ after a book he is writing.
  • 2006: Co-founded The Basic Aid Project in Taiwan with Geoff North.

Other Tidbits:

Through the Refuge Community, Boston Paul has (with the help of many others) initiated the following Organizations/Events:

  • ~ LUVstock  (Annual)
  • ~Winter Solstice Celebration (Annual)
  • ~Spring Equinox Gathering (Annual)
  • ~Basic Aid Charity Event (Annual)
  • ~Basic Aid Charitable Organization (with Geoff North and others)
  • ~B.P. has  not only been a performer at PeaceFest but has also been an Admin for the PeaceFest (Annual).

Let’s get Personal

Massachusetts is considered to be a Liberal State (Massachusetts was the first state to approve Gay Marriages for example which I applaud but also find odd because of the prevalent Catholic Presence).
The Republican Protestant is the minority in good Ol’ Taxachusetts where I grew up.

My family is very Protestant & very Republican in a very Catholic/Democrat Environment.

What a dynamic.

I was part of the ‘Born Again’ Fundamentalist Evangelical Christian Movement (see John 3:16) as a child.

Yes, 15 years of Religiousness and a Personal Relationship with Jesus.

Not only did I go to Church on Sundays (Sunday Service, Sunday School, sometimes early service and evening service); but I also attended Youth Group during the Middle of the Week; participated in Weekly & Daily Bible Studies; had Daily Devotions; went to Bible Camp in the Summer in New Hampshire; went to various Retreats; and even participated in a couple Billy Graham Crusades (where I was a ‘counselor’ at 14 years old). If I had to do it over, I am not sure I would. But the learning experiences have been invaluable.  Concerning Religion, I’m more cynical & skeptical than ever.

Thank Christ (pun intended) for showing me how f*cked up it all is.

Truth is not found in One Book.

Truth is a Quest that requires an open mind, and seizing opportunities to obtain knowledge from everything & anything.

Truth comes in many Guises and often unexpectedly.

Question what you believe for this does 2 things:

Re-affirms what you already Believe

or

Causes you to Change or Modify what you Believe…

1LUV

You can Follow the Militant Hippi/Boston Paul on Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/BostonPaul

 

Political Dialogue: What is a TERRORIST?

What is a TERRORIST?

The word Terrorist is thrown around the English Lexicon without any regard to its actual meaning.

This Question was poised to get a feeling of what People are thinking.

Who listens to the Rhetoric spewed  out by the Corporate Media? 

The Terrorist is the New Enemy.

And it is Genius. Really.

Countries through-out History have always had a well-defined enemy until The Terrorist was invented.

Now the Terrorist could be your quiet neighbor, the shifty eyed gas attendant, the hippie looking Music Student.

The Communist Scare of the 50s has been perfected and the average American Joe & Jane believe the Hype. 

Go to MilitaryNewsNetwork.com and check em’ out.

I do.

A pity we are surrounded by Sheep.

Sheep with Sharp Teeth. 

See how others define Terrorist: 

 
 
Tobie Openshaw
A person who uses terror, violence and the threat of violence to achieve political or religious aims.
Also see: FREEDOM FIGHTER
 
 
 
 
Julian Bush
fat women in tight clothes, terrifying
 
 
 
Sue Howard
what’s wrong with fat women in tight clothes? Some of us find them comfortable. I’ve even been known to rock the spandex.
 
 
Tobie Openshaw
Hmm no, ‘ist” is just someone who does something. Violinist, lobbyist, librocubiculirist…
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Sara Kennedy Bester
someone who can’t see truth… so according to any book i’ve read from people who have the abilities see truth, a very very large population of the earth.
 
 
Tobie Openshaw
And in WWII the allies used fear, intimidation, and violence to achieve their goals of peace. I think by definition a terrorist is not part of a state security system. Anwyay … ’tis a can of worms, albeit an interesting one, that you have opened.
 
Sue Howard
does this make me a double terrorist?
 
 
Mars Alexandre
Yaaaaaa…. I want popcorn with butter and salt , getting cappuccino now , anybody?
There are different kinds of terror though…
Fear=Somebody sticks an umbrella up your arse…
Terror= Someone opens the umbrella!!!!
 
 
Christian Kohli
It’s certainly not the Afghan warlords that deal in opium with the right banks and interests apparently

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091028/ts_nm/us_afghanistan_usa_cia

 
Tobie Openshaw
and Sarah, if you want to bring “truth” into it, that’s an entirely diifferent can of worms you’re opening. There is no such thing as truth. When anyone says “I have found the TRUTH” what they mean is “I have found a truth that sounds pretty ok to me” The Christian, Buddhist, and Muslim each having exactly the same amount (i.e. zero) of proof that their belief system represents the “truth”. The only unassailable truth is that 2+2=4 and there are some theoretical mathematicians who will even parse that for you.
 
 
Jeffree Pike
people who create or incite terror/death/destruction…wacked out souls who blow themselves up on a city bus or vegetable market(& the religious nuts who encourage them)..also of course military officers who sit in their techno-seats in Nevada while controling pilotless ‘terminator’ drones which create terror from the skies in remote villages in Pakistan…(& the politicans/generals who allow it)..
 
 
Mars Alexandre
“A person who uses terror, violence and the threat of violence to achieve POLITICAL or religious aims.”
“a terrorist is someone who believes that the use of fear, intimidation, and violence is an acceptable means to achieve a certain goal.”
“fat women in tight clothes”
First two … ok I agree because is such a sanguinary son of a bitch …
but Gorge Bush is not fat and I have never seen that bitch in tight clothes.
 
 
Landis Shook
A person that raises Terriers?
 
Sue Howard
Mars-LOL…I knew I liked you. George Bush. Fucking funny.
 
 
Thomas Steenson
If I say “PURPLE HAIRY BANANAS!!”, and you break down and scream in absolute terror… I AM not a terrorist.

What makes a LAW lawful????

 
Laura Halifax McKenzie
 
 
Tobie Openshaw
a law is made lawful by consent of the people to whom the law applies
 
 
Francisco Jose Ramos
The Pope!!!! and the Vaticano ….we must bomb them….and maybe after that the sky too…..hahahaha
 
 
Sue Howard
How did the nobles become nobles in the first place, eh? They took it. They took it at the tip of a sword.
 
 
James Murray
Main Entry: ter·ror·ism
Pronunciation: \ˈter-ər-ˌi-zəm\
Function: noun
Date: 1795
: the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion.
— ter·ror·ist \-ər-ist\ adjective or noun
— ter·ror·is·tic \ˌter-ər-ˈis-tik\ adjective
 
 
Boston Paul
Damn James, then I was a Terrorist when I was in the Amerikan Military.
 
 
 
Francisco Jose Ramos
WE guess Boston!! you must find god….he will forgive you hahaha…..
 
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Sue Howard
Wow, Paul…we’re batting a thousand here aren’t we? lol
 
 
Boston Paul
Francisco, I was fighting for God. I was a Repulican Protestant then after all.

Back then the Communist was the Enemy.

Perhaps I should beg for Allah’s forgiveness.

What do you mean Sue? (And when we meet again someday Sue, we should both wear our spandex…)

;-0)

Boston Paul
REPOSTED from below:
U.S. Code Title 18, Section 2331

The US Government says that Terrorism is:
(1) the term “international terrorism” means activities that—
(A) involve violent acts or acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State, or that would be a criminal violation if committed within the jurisdiction of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended—
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
(C) occur primarily outside the territorial jurisdiction of the United States, or transcend national boundaries in terms of the means by which they are accomplished, the persons they appear intended to intimidate or coerce, or the locale in which their perpetrators operate or seek asylum;
(2) the term “national of the United States” has the meaning given such term in section 101(a)(22) of the Immigration and Nationality Act;
(3) the term “person” means any individual or entity capable of holding a legal or beneficial interest in property;
(4) the term “act of war” means any act occurring in the course of—
(A) declared war;
(B) armed conflict, whether or not war has been declared, between two or more nations; or
(C) armed conflict between military forces of any origin; and
(5) the term “domestic terrorism” means activities that—
(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended—
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/usc_sec_18_00002331—-000-.html

 
Sean Luo
 
 
 
 
William Walsh
depends who writes the history
 
 
 
Thomas Steenson
Tobie; only corporate policy (statues and acts) can be claimed lawful by the consent of the people to whom the law applies. Hence “police” enforce with monopolized violence.
But that does not make them lawful laws.
The LAW is absolute, and is liberty itself. It applies to everyone.
Any policy which violates the inherent and unalienable rights of the individual is no law at all, but tyranny and crime against the populace (stealing, breaking, killing).
GENOCIDE
 
 
Thomas Steenson
Francisco; Paul has not found God yet.
BUT JUST WAIT UNTIL HE DOES!

The he will finally know for certain I AM walking with him.

 
 
Sue Howard
Paul and I found god quite some time ago, and didn’t exactly agree with what his fan club had to say. We grew up together.
 
 
OStuart Wilson
Obama is a Terrorist!
 
 
Stuart Wilson
Check out: The Obama Deception, a film by Alex Jones! Scary stuff…
 
 
 
Sue Howard
Ugh, here we go with the Obama crap.
 
 
 
Dwayne Young
I believe Mr William Walsh said it best earlier above…
“depends who rights history.” Thats it plain and simple.
Who ever wins the war or is in control writes history.
His story….
 
 
Graham Sills
Obama totally wore spandex. I Think it was when he went to all those Islam schools in indonesia.
 
 
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Michael T. Lane
terrorist is a word created to invoke fear and minimize thought about complex situations. As noted above, freedom fighter or non-lateral combatant are other words that have been used to describe the same person performing the same action.

more and more these days, it seems, the word terrorist is replacing the word criminal, too. It’s evolving in its scope. Soon, you won’t need to think about anything. We’ll know just who the terrorists are, be they political insurgents, drug peddlers, bank robbers or jaywalkers.

 
 
Roger Smith
It’s just a recycled buzz word used to polarize opinions to suit nefarious political ends. “By it’s literal definition….it follows that The United States is the leading terrorist state” – Chomsky

Go Venus Project!

 
 
Chris Ecker
It’s what happens when you fall of your scooter and land on your hand!
 
 
Brian Michael Fall
Terror is a long journey in a small truck in very very cold weather with a man who just ate a great deal of blue cheese and sardines. Ergo, he is a terrorist.
 
 
 
Hill Rodney
Sean, Chomsky does it again. Good stuff.
 
 
 
Maako Ishikawa
A terrorist is some one who doesn’t think like us and deserves to die because of thinking wrong..
 
 
 
Roland Le Lopez
ter?ror?ist (ter’er-ist) n. 1. One who engages in acts or an act of terrorism.
2. One who leads an armed group that kills civilians as a means of political intimidation — unless he terrorizes Haitians while on the CIA-payroll, as did 1990s death squad leader Emmanuel Constant, in which case the U.S. refuses to extradite him to Haiti, even after Sept. 11, 2001.

3. One who targets civilian airliners and ships — unless he blows up a Cuban civilian airliner, killing 73 people, and fires at a Polish freighter, like Orlando Bosch, in which case he is coddled and paroled by the Bush Justice Department in 1990, and his extradition is blocked.
4. One who leads a group that engages in kidnapping and murder — unless the victims are Hondurans attacked by CIA-backed death squad Battalion 316, in which case Battalion architect Gustavo Alvarez becomes a Pentagon consultant, while the then-ambassador to Honduras who downplayed the terror, John Negroponte, is appointed U.S. ambassador to the United Nations days after Sept. 11.

5. One who uses rape and murder for political purposes — unless the victims are four U.S. church women sexually assaulted and killed in 1980 by members of El Salvador?s U.S.-backed military, in which case excuses and distortions pour forth from then-U.N. Ambassador Jeane Kirkpatrick (?these nuns were not just nuns; they were also political activists?) and Secretary of State Al Haig (the nuns ?may have tried to run a roadblock?).

6. One who designates civilians as ?soft targets? to be attacked in the cause of political transformation — unless the targets are Nicaraguans killed by Contra guerrillas armed and directed by the U.S who, according to Human Rights Watch, ?systematically engage in violent abuses?so prevalent that these may be said to be their principal means of waging war.?

7. One who facilitates a massacre of civilians — unless the victims are 900 Palestinians shot and hacked to death in the Sabra and Shatila camps by Lebanese Christian militia as Israeli soldiers stood guard, in which case Israel?s then-Defense Minster (now Prime Minister) Ariel Sharon remains a U.S. ?War on Terrorism? ally after being censured as indirectly responsible for the massacre by an Israeli commission of inquiry.

 
Ryan J. Barber
A freedom fighter by another name.
 
 
Sammy Hoffa
I didn’t read all 46 comments… but I would have to say the George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and the founding fathers were Terrorists to England at one point. I figure these days anyone going against “the rulers” is a terrorist.
As far as some people are concerned free thinkers that organize in any way are terrorists.
If not now then soon.
 
 
James Tinker
Ronald McDonald – definitely a terrorist.
 
 
 
Marcus Van
I am.
 
 
Above were comments left Oct 2009. I have ressurected this Question to see what the rest of you think. Looking forward to your responses.
1LUV

SUPPORT AMERICAN TROOPS! What does this statement mean?

SUPPORT AMERICAN TROOPS serving in Iraq & Afghanistan!

What does this statement mean exactly?

I am anti-war. Period. I was in the Army for 4 years. I signed the dotted line. I was 18 and legally an adult as far as the government was concerned. According to the government, I was able to make my own decisions (except of course I could not decide if I wanted a beer or not. The drinking age was 21. The government thought I was old enough to die for my country, but not old enough to have a beer, go figure. We’ll discuss that at another time.).

Soldiers join the military for many reasons. GI BILL, adventure, to get away, learn a trade, and yes there are even those Nationalistic ‘ate-up’ ones that join to kill a Commy for Mommy. Point is, regardless of the bells and whistles the Military provides; we all join a War Machine.

That’s it.

By joining the military, like it or not, you are supporting war. So don’t be surprised when they call you up (Reverves, National Guard included) to ‘serve’ (i.e. kill others and perhaps be killed) your country. You sign the dotted line, you are THEIRS.

That brings me to ‘Support The Troops’ and its implications. We all make mistakes. We’re Human. It is what we do: we fuck up all the time. But most of the time, no one hates us for our mistakes.

For example; we may be disappointed when our children do something we think is wrong, malicious or stupid; but we still love our children, we still nurture our children, we show the children where their mistakes are. We still give the children food, clothes, our love. We don’t put the child out into the street, spit on the child, beat the child.

In short we Support the Children, just not the (stupid, malicious wrong) actions they do.

Support the Troops. Indeed. But let’s not get that confused with Anti-war which the Media and those that watch Foxnews or listen to Glenn Beck (there are people take that guy seriously?) seem to muddy.  To see how this statement was received – Read the comments below then leave your own.

Peace in the Middle East.

What does it mean to support the Troops?

Discussion from Facebook

Quite Interesting Take a Peek.

Leon Rene LaPointe

We have to send them money?
Julian Bush
it means get them home!
Leon Rene LaPointe
Kinda like starving kids in Africa… Support a soldier, make sure he learns to read and write, goes to school, every few weeks you get a photo and a thankyou letter… I think?
Leon Rene LaPointe
Oh? So by supporting a soldier, the American army will send one to live with you at your own house?
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Larry Glasco
it means stand behind them no matter your belief as they are only doing thier assignement or job as you do every day you have a choice to do your job or not they do not their consequences for not following orders are much more severe then you not … while you sleep or play on here they hardly ever sleep while you go shopping they wear the same clothes for days so yes please support them and let them no they are loved and cared for
Leon Rene LaPointe
I support the troops under that definition, I even support the war in afghanistan, but I do not support the war in Iraq…
Mars Alexandre
Like… psychological support ? Well , under those circumstances of “no choice” and go follow orders like a dumb dog , I guess it is fare at least thinking people feel pity on them and show some compassion…
Can you imagine the feeling of guilt after know that the whole thing was just a mascarade to steal a whole nation’s oil?
Well…I do believe in Obama’s intentions of peace , but that doesn’t erase that they massacred and destroyed a whole nation and murdered thousands of human beings under the new Hitler’s regime (Bush admin) Just for oil… or money or what ever the hell the son of a bitch was thinking …
Yes I do pity them (it is some sort of support isn’t it?)
No offense here , the U.S. are beautiful people and I can say that because I have very good friends there , just … thanks God dark ages are over , and finally U.S. can have a breathe … and so the rest of the planet…
Leon Rene LaPointe
Why else wage war? Oil is a pretty good reason to wage war! I think the thing that pisses people off is that they weren’t up front about it, if they had slick commercial made about how cool oil is before they invaded everyone would totally be for it… The mistake was not the act but the message. Hire better propaganda ministers is my opinion.
It means to send them care packages and let them know that you appreciate their service regardless of what you believe. As the sister to Paul’s COUSIN (yes that makes him my cousin too but the lack of support he has for my brother makes me feel less like family) who is deployed in Iraq as we speak, I find this sort of cruel and idiotic banter offensive. I don’t believe we should be at war but its not the soldier’s fault. I’m sure if any of you were in his place right now you’d be upset by the lack of compasion and understanding found here. I’m not stupid and I know all about your war for oil crap but I don’t care about that any more, what I care about is that my baby brother comes home safe. Talking about how there should be a war doesn’t make it go away!!!!! Voting the right people in does. So shut up and do something or go stop making asses out of yourselves by babbling sarcastic comments about men and woman who are doing a Jon most of you can’t do if you tried
Leon Rene LaPointe
Yeah, we understand all that but its more fun to be sarcastic on the internet.
Nicki Dunton
Well I’m glad that my 19 year old brother, soon to be father, risking his life round the clock provides you with hours of entertainment. *note the sarcasm* ignorance is bliss.  I’ve stated my mind and now I’m going to bed. Karma is a bitch 🙂 have a good night or day, what ever time it is where ever you are.
Leon Rene LaPointe
Oh c’mon now… Cheeky internet chat is not going to lose the war.
No its not, but I’m not concerned about losing or winning. Just my brother. I don’t find this “cheeky” either. I’m probably too tired to joke about my brothers life, goodnight
Leon Rene LaPointe
I erased my last reply and it was not related to any of your spelling or grammar. So you replied to something that I wrote before that made little sense… I said before previously that I am not against the troops, I stated before that I am anti-Iraq war, pro-afghanistan war… Anti-peace, pro-calm… And support your brother, but have no support for the crap that got him involved in an unjust war in Iraq. Cheers!
You must have erased it while I was typing my reply. Sorry. And frankly I was more upset with “mars” and their comments than yours. I have also previously stated that I don’t agree with the reasons we went to war either, but all that goes out the window when some one you adore is fighting that war no one likes. Your focus becomes them and their life, yes you still vote for changes etc but arguments like these become transparent and meaningless. Not nearly important as your loved one’s life. Yes, I’m passionate about this, its my brother that I love dearly, and I’m passionate about the people I love, don’t even get me started about my kids lol
Dwayne Young
The war in Afghanistan is just as unjust as the war in Iraq is in my opinon.
I can’t see how you can be pro one war and anti the other.
What has Afghanistan done to deserve what they got?
Is it because the Taleban supposidly harbour a fugitive that was supposidly “the mastermind” of 9/11…(the same Taleban who wiped out herion production while in power but which now flourishes under “occupation”)
Why not find the “fugitive” and leave the people alone!
The Taleban is the people of Afghanistans problem not the U.S or anyone elses problem.There is no need to meddle in their internal politics.
That is a problem for the people of Afghanistan to solve.The C.I.A has proven links to terrorist organisations…Does this then give permission for countries to go and liberate the people of America from tyranny???
It’s fuckin madness.Both wars are being fought on fraudulent fronts.
Damian Randall
I’m with Dwayne on this one.
Mars Alexandre
About your brother my friend , yes , I agree with you and understand and support your comment , I know that feeling as well, I also went to war but I refused to follow orders as I was fighting for a cause , not for money and I sure faced the consecuences. we all have a choice my friend , it is the beauty of being human … Free will…
M.A.D. Mutual assured destruction … When are humans going to understand that we are 1 species… I know war better than what I would like…pain,suffering,stress , it affects not only the victims and the soldiers , also thousands of families and relatives as it is your case, trust me I know…
I apologize if my comment was some how … offensive… But same as me , hour brother has a choice , we all do , follow , fight and even die is worth if it is for the right reason , to protect those we love , for freedom , for a noble idea . I do not support genocide under any circumstance. Get your brother out of there.
I admire your passion and support and understand your feelings.
Jennifer Marie Williams
Supporting troops also means being there for the families left behind. As achild of a military parent, I understand the psychological damage to the families and soldier this causes. Just as I know the consequences of themnot following orders like a “dumb dog”. If Boston is using this platform to provoke thought or change. What good does the sarcasm and bitching do for the rest who are passers by? I’d rather appear thoughtful, passionate and open to others perspectives than slinging insults whether intentional or not. Of course if the nternet is your alter ego… Makes me wonder what’d you do when the worlds ills are again at your front door. Will you stand and speak for yourself? Or will you look for that Persn in camoflauge to do the dirty work? Or that officer in blue you taunt at rallies? Curious.
Craig Zaidel
***i apologize for the length of this***

paul, it cant possibly mean something ‘exact’ for anyone. the statement itself has been been politicized since september 12th, despite the fact we have been intervening militarily in both afghanistan and iraq since the 1980s. ‘support the troops’ has become a red herring argument for both sides of the spectrum, thus deflecting attention away from why there is such a need for a military presence in the middle east in the first place. you people are debating in a house of mirrors. its sometimes embarrassing to read, but they represent baby steps.

the easiest answer is the right one – the US will never withdraw troops from the middle east because it never has. theyve been there for 30 years already. this is a global, imperialist, strategy set in motion a generation ago. geo-politically, the US govt knew it must maintain their ground, along with corporate and national ties, to stay afloat in latter half of this century. russia has resources that china will need once the mediterranean shipping lanes and, most importantly, pipelines (see afghanistan), will be auctioned to the highest bidder (and by bidder, i mean the one with the biggest gun – a.k.a. the US). the chess pieces just arent already on the board, we are halfway through the match. … See More

most people dont even realize theres a game going on.

the amazing thing about revisionist history is that most people dont read what comes before it, deluded by the belief that as the species evolves so will the integrity of our intentions, or, at least, the integrity of the literate. ironically, history has shown us the opposite, which is why its imperative to absorb as much as we can from all viewpoints and all times.

we sit and read/watch another report of a suicide bomber blowing up a crowded market, or listen to absurd shit-politik and we take our anger to the only place we believe to have a voice… the internet. and we yell things like, ‘tyranny,’ and, ‘no blood for oil,’ and other meaningless statements like, ‘support the troops serving in iraq and afghanistan!’

however, i have friends in those countries right now and i would like to see them again. this is why i suggest that this statement cannot ‘exactly’ mean the same for anyone.

Brian Michael Fall
“Support the Troops” What does it mean? It depends entirely on who says it.
To one, it may mean “shut up, look the other way and let us do what we what, right or wrong.”
To another, it may mean “stop wasting them in foreign lands and bring them home to serve where they’re needed, respected, wanted and loved.”
Whatever reason you say it’s for, the fruit has rotted and fallen off the tree before it even ripened.
Where’s the cheap gas? Where are the shining new democracies of the middle east?… See More
WWII was fought over 6 years covering an entire contintent ( I’m only referring to the European theatre here) involving many countries against an army that even at that time makes the best of today’s middle eastern armies pale in comparison.
I think the relevent question is why the hell isn’t the job done yet?
If you were performing your job in this half-assed manner, you’d have been sacked ages ago.
In short, political and military leaders of today are disgracefully useless, incompetent and inept.
The only I agree with Craig is that it means something different to everyone. The rest goes back to what I said about how all of these political and philisophical discussions become mute when we are waiting for a loved one to come home safely. I appreciate all the positive and understanding comments made. Sitting here debating on facebook ISN’T going to change the world or humanity, living your live positively will. and in one of my lasts posts it should say that he is soon to be A father, I Re-read it and realized it sounded like he was going to be MY father lol
Yeah. Oil and in the name of god. Two perfectly good reasons to wage war *rolls eyes*. Hey, just think, if the world hadn’t used either of those for that very reason, we may only have Hitler to blame for anything, right?
Kristen LeNormand Arute
So much commentary from such uninformed people! Like being an authority on parenting when you don’t have any children of your own! Having an opinion is one thing, but the sarcastic pseudo-intelligent comments are pretty ridiculous. Nicki, my brother-in-law didn’t meet his son until he was 5 months old because he was stationed in Kuwait 19 years ago. It was very difficult on my sister and the whole family. I hope your brother doesn’t have to wait 5 months to meet his baby. I wish him a safe return home.
Thank you so much Kristen! His son is due in December, he is going to to get his mid-your leave for that time but no guarantees, he may have to wait just as long unfortunately.
Kristen LeNormand Arute
Good luck! I hope it works out. And he could be home for Christmas too! 🙂
Rick Wolfe
Support the troops by supporting peace!
Hey, my cousin was 6 months pregnant at the time of 9/11 and was due at work in the north tower that morning. She had morning sickness and missed her commuter rail into Manhattan. Thank the gods for small favors, or I would have lost more than the one relative I did that day (cousin whom I didn’t know related by marriage on one of the planes that went down). My boyfriend is former navy and very proud of it. We all have our reasons to support or not support the military in whatever form. Here, I’ll open a whole new can of worms-Bush was a fucking idiot who should have been shot and put out of our misery.
Yeah but its not the military’s fault, the politicians control the military so its rather ignorant NOT to support our soldiers who are in harm’s way. My brother didn’t cause any conflict with Iraq or Afganistan, but its him over there, (saving lives mind you as a crew chief of a med unit) not bush or any other politicians. Direct your anger at the right people and leave the people who die for YOU out of it.
Lisa Davis Owens
Lisa Davis Owens
What does supporting the troops mean? To one Army Mum that has started a program called Operation Desert Swap (a group of people who actively support our troops with letters cards, care packs & books) it means that there are peoples sons/daughters, fathers/mothers, sisters/brothers, nieces/nephews, grandchildren, aunts/uncles, cousins, and friends who are far far from home in conditions that a family member or friend hates to see them in. A dangerous place, a place far different then they are used to, who deserve to be remembered, cared for and appreciated.

To clear the muddy waters you all have created let me tell you that there is a difference between supporting the war(s) and supporting the human beings invovled in it/them. There is a difference between fighting for your country and fighting for your gov’t. You ppl act as tho America is a home of politicians. America is filled w/ millions of ppl, ordinary ppl who want to be protected against terrorism (which includes being terrorized by our gov’t)

Over my dead cold body will my son and the others who serve be treated like my husband was treated when he came home from Vietnam. They are only the game pieces not the game players. Keep your criticism for the players.

For a group of ppl proclaiming love & peace, you sure are filled with hate, intolerance & disrespect….hypocrits.

Now, I am done, for those w/o the brains to figure out what that means, it means I will say no more on this subject.

  • “Now, I am done, for those w/o the brains to figure out what that means, it means I will say no more on this subject.”

BP Note: I love this line. Now I am done and you know what that means? I’m finished. I will say no more… really! That’s it. No more on this subject! The end!

Rock Starkey
Isn’t it pretty similar, actually, to “support your local convenience store sales clerk”? I mean the functionality is fairly similar right? They both give you things you don’t need at a fraction of what they cost in terms of resource availability. And they both smell of ointment… sometimes. At least my local one does… haven’t smelled any soldiers lately. I think it’s late.
Mars Alexandre
Who ever it is that has a brother overseas …
I see just a blank silhouette with no name on it , so feels like writing to a ghost here …
So what you are basically saying here is that your brother is a volunteer victim of the system , and you are deeply worried about him? (Don’t mean to be rude here bro , I really know what you are going through)
1) Who named US “police of the world”?
2) Why US has troops in the middle east?”Terrorism”? or just has military advantage so can invade any nation that has something US wants…… See More
3) I am not against US , I am against war … ANY WAR! and I do believe at this point of evolution humans SHOULD UNDERSTAND THAT WE ALL SHARE THIS PLANET AND HAVE NOWHERE ELSE TO GO.
4) So they are rebuilding what they messed up , and saving the same people they murdered?
5) No matter the excuse army has to be in foreign land , just the fact they are there it is an invasion.
So , if some bigger nation invade your land and kill your family , would you love that nation?
6)THE GREAT MENACE OF TERRORISM… let me try to find something that actually makes sense on that one… Oh yes … money…
7) So , if 9/11 was a legitimate terrorism attack (With all do respect for the victims and their relatives) means it is a license for murder anywhere any time , even send your brothers and sisters to a living hell and cause pain and death to so many people?
8) Why US military has to make sure no one else has nuclear power? (I AM AGAINST WEAPONS OF ANY KIND)
9)Who can certify that US military has no nuclear weapons?So the rest of the planet can sleep in peace.
10 Gorge Bush … same as Hitler … Will he ever take responsibility for his actions and go to trial?
Brother , your brother is risking his life in a war that is not his war , you are in a horrible pain because of that just to make millions to the Bush family.
Tell me: Are you still support this criminal?
I sure hope your brother returns home safe , you can be sure he will be in my prays.
Leon Rene LaPointe
Go live in Afghanistan… The thing is pre-gulf war II anyone could have lived in Iraq with very little problems in a vaguely secular society… Afghanistan has been fucked for ages. I support the NATO intervention in messed up country that treats its citizens like shit beyond any of the little tears the oh-so oppressed western world has with all these oh-so terrible conspiracies we have all the time in the world to follow, while people are getting their heads chopped off in afghanistan for being gay or a supposed adulterer… Fuck peace, I support moments of calm. Peace is achieved when humans get a new brain or finally die out and replaced by the next bunch ass-munchers.
Mars Alexandre
The world is divided …
Proves that humans are no longer one species…
So sad…
Anyway … internal politics of another country…
How is that US concern? Is it humanity?
Or just a chance to find an excuse for an invasion , stealing resources and make millions?
Well , let me rephrase that…
How is that Gorge Bush concern?
Leon Rene LaPointe
By all of your hippy dippy wishy washy logic we should have allowed the Nazi’s to totally eradicate Europe. People who can afford that form of logic are usually the privledged. The rest of the world has to eat what is put on the plate while we get our panties in a bunch over a slice of meat…
Leon Rene LaPointe
The world aint divided, there ain’t two species of mankind, there is just humans and human problems… In order to remove the problems you must remove the dynamics of the human mind, you must remove variables , you must remove drama, to remove these aspects of the human mind you create machines, peaceful machines at the expense of all this chaos makes us non-human… I would rather live here on this flawed earth than an eternity in heaven or an engineered heaven on earth ran by men who ideologized peace, for heaven if it does exist would very quickly be just like earth if humans are in anyway involved…
Leon Rene LaPointe
THE ONLY GOOD PARTY… IS A RIOT!!!
Mars Alexandre
Mr. LaPointe:
1) “By all of your hippy dippy wishy washy logic we should have allowed the Nazi’s to totally eradicate Europe.”
ISN’T GORGE BUSH EXACTLY THE SAME AS ADOLF HITLER? (answer depends on which side of the line are you , as everything else is relative , isn’t it?)
2) “People who can afford that form of logic are usually the privileged.”
Maybe , yes , I have two master degrees and very proud to say I made it myself , I was a street child and remember looking for food in the garbage outside the local restaurants , I cleaned toilets to pay for my studies and still now feel I am the same , only have acquired knowledge (in the end , that is all I will take with me , things will remain here)… See More
It is how you rule your thinking , your mind and your heart what makes you get out the hole… and become who you truly are.
But this argument is not about you and me and how different we think as we have no power to change anything , only let go a little bit that bitter feeling all this oil-money war parade has left within all human kind.
Craig Zaidel
chaplin – modern times/great dictator
kurzweil – the age of spiritual machines
Leon Rene LaPointe
George Bush was/is hardly Hitler, as much as that would be nice for us to have a super villian in our generation. Obama is actually the anti-Christ 😛 so touche Hitler!

Your ability to even go and get an education is because of this evil conspiracy against humanity society we live in. I don’t think children in Afghanistan get that option in the slightest unless their parents happen to have tonnes of money. I am not saying that it doesn’t happen, but it would be fair to say that an average impoverished westerner has a better oppurtunity to elevate themselves than one would in Afghanistan prior 911.

The world is not a battle between good and evil or black and white… It is merely a clusterfuck of grey.

Mars Alexandre
Ha! There we go! Yap , have them both and love them both.Well… I can perfectly imagine Bush and Powell “The great dictator” Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!
Leon Rene LaPointe
Mars Alexandre
Mr. LaPointe :
When and where I grew up had very similar conditions to those places you mention (Yes an average of 100 murders a day , and police doing nothing but stealing and assaulting , oppression as you have no idea) Still I will not deny I was lucky to scape…

“The world is not a battle between good and evil or black and white… It is merely a clusterfuck of grey.”
I like this one , and totally agree.

Sure, just ask and I’ll share.
Leon Rene LaPointe
Mars I enjoy finding out your view on these things, trust me I not hell-fire and damnation or even actually concerned about world politics, I do admit that I don’t toe the popular line on a lot of issues though, I am neither democrat or republican. I personally believe that the only real peace a man can hope to achieve is hopefully within his own family or a small group of friends. Strive for the small victories, I guess…

Everyone wins in internet debate!

Mars Alexandre
It is the beauty of free will , my Grand Father used to say : “Respect for others rights and choices is peace”
I like this debates very much , it’s very interesting to know others thinking to this matters , everybody is different and I have to tell you I have learnt a lot today.
Thank you very much for the link , I bet anyone who reads it will find it strangely familiar…
Londoner Taichung
We can’t even support one another…
Mars Alexandre
Good one La…

POLITICS:Military News Network Dialogue: September 11, 2009

1st MNN Dialogue that I was involved in:
I saw that a member of my family, who has a son in the Middle East, was in this group. I went to check it out. Saw some comments made about the steel from the 911 being used to build the Navy Ship: USS New York. Thought I would re-post the comments made by the Patriotic Americans.Feel free to add your thoughts:

MilitaryNewsNetwork.com reports: on this 8th anniversary of 9/11, that steel from the World Trade Center was used in the construction of the new US Navy ship USS New York. The ship’s motto is Never Forget.

Some of the comments that transpired (BP is #17)

1. d Kraeger: ANCHORS AWEIGH, NEW YORK. GO POOUND THE HECK OUT OF TERRORISTS EVERYWHERE.

2. Glenda Ramos: Wow what a way to Never Forget 911. Awesome!!

3. Heather Milyo Bellantone: Great to hear that! I will never forget seeing those tractor trailers hauling those steel beams on the Staten Island Exp for weeks following 9/11. Good to know some of the beams were used in the construction of the US Navy Ship USS New York. Thank you!! We will never forget!! God Bless!

4. Joe Martino: send it to the middle east and BLOW THE SHIT out of them

5. Fred Shields: republican powers active

6. Steve Compton: Charlie Daniels summed it up best, when he said…. “Dedicated to the memory of the people who did nothing more than go to work on a Tuesday morning. God Bless America.”

Rhonda Farris

I remember where I was, what I was doing, who I called and how I felt…

Jerry Meyers

Jerry Meyers

What a Day….God Bless the USA…..PLEASE do not forget those that lost their lives that day…..and those that are currently and will in the future. Have a heart Facebook friends …….send your thoughts to all that have been effected by the past and present effects of this day!
Joe Martino

Joe Martino

send it to the middle east and BLOW THE SHIT out of them
Laura Wason Bowers

We still take time to remember December 7, 1941
Lee Staples

Lee Staples

Um I believe that those of us who have husbands, wives, gf’s, bf’s etc do all that I know I do ……I have lost a few friends in this war and miss them all tremedously…..so for those of you who think that we don’t remember them we all do…….its hard to believe that some people don’t think that we do……this is the military news network and we always send our prayers and thoughts no matter who we are……..

Richard Mabee

Richard Mabee

Yea Jean, what the heck, that is 23.36 hours for every person killed. That should be enough right? Yor concern for our soldiers is evident, the ones fighting the “so called war”. I think it is time to forget you Jean!
Jeannie Davis Brantley

Jeannie Davis Brantley

Jean Kuhn……..THANK YOU!!!! Very well said and so true!!!
Deborah Omundsen

Deborah Omundsen

Just because the media does not give this kind of attention to our soldiers at home or abroad doesn’t mean they aren’t remembered every day of every week all year long. Since when do we need the media to tell us what and who to remember!
Samia Battin Cote

Samia Battin Cote

We should never forget that it happened, HOWEVER I don’t need it crammed down my throat and continuously replayed every year. Yes, we remember D-Day, Pearl Harbor Day, etc. but we don’t have to rewatch it to remember. What we need to remember is that it is possible to rehappen, and how to prevent it… not how it happened in the first place.
Pamela P. Langley

Pamela P. Langley

God bless all of our troops, especially on 9/11!
Tina Nalley-Orsted

Tina Nalley-Orsted

Never forget……………………..
Jean Milakovich Blazak

Jean Milakovich Blazak

I don’t mind having 911 as a reminder. We Americans sometimes need a kick in the pants to remind us of the devastating time it was for us and the famlies of there lost ones. The wars are and will always be a reminder, but it was only 8 years ago and it should not have happened to us in this time. Do you realize what is going on in our country? We are at war! Lets not forget it.
Laura Mae
Laura Mae

Never Forget!!
Kendra McCrory
Kendra McCrory

I think it’s a great idea for them to let us remember 9/11 …. it is the main reason why we are doing what we are doing in the middle east and YES, we should remind people because it’s easy to forget with all the negative light on the war, it’s good to remind people just what we’re there for. I think it should be done every year. Remember, just because you don’t think it needs to be “crammed down your throat every year”, it’s a good way to remember all the people that died that day and give their families ONE day out of the year to grieve and remember their loved ones. Try to remember to have compassion for the families of every last 3,000 people that lost their life that awful day. I hope we never keep showing and refreshing people’s memory of exactly what this country is made of. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!! And Samia, we do have things every year on Pearl Harbor day, being I lived in Hawaii on the island of O’ahu, it’s still a big deal there.. that’s why the Arizona Memorial (cont’d)
Kendra McCrory

Kendra McCrory

is one of the most visited tourist attractions in Hawai’i. It’s sad to know that people don’t want to let the country remember and refresh the feeling we felt that day so we can remember what we are fighting for!
Doug Peppers

Doug Peppers

“We may do a little bit of fighting amongst ourselves, but you outside people best leave us alone. Cause we’ll all stick together, you can take that to the bank. That’a the cowboys and the hippies and the rebels and the yanks” – Charlie Daniels. This may not be the exact wording, but it gets the point across. War is the one thing that every person wants to avoid. Especially the front line soldiers. But if we had turned tail and wimpered away, how many other innocent people would have been killed (there were more than just Americans in the towers). I am proud to know that there are the brave men and women in the military that will stand up to the terrorists and take the fight to them and not wait for the fight to come to us. I pray for them every day, but I also know that not all will come home. No matter what our political beliefs, we need to support them.
Cliff Witkowski

Cliff Witkowski

Never forget, and don’t tread on us !

Steve Cardenas

Steve Cardenas

Right, let us NEVER FORGET…
Heather Ray

Heather Ray

I love this. It’s so great that they are using the beams from the twin towers to build something so magnificent. I will never forget where I was, what I was doing, or who the first person I called was. That day will stick with me forever. And I think it is great that we remember that day the way we do every year. I hope they never stop doing this for many years to come. Doug Peppers, I love that quote from Charlie Daniels. That is one of the best quotes that I have ever heard. Really sums up America. My thoughts and prayers go out everyday to my nephew who is serving in Iraq right now as a Marine and all those serving with him and their families. May they all come home safe to their loved ones.
Debbie Vaughn Edsall

Debbie Vaughn Edsall

This is very cool!!

Emma Lavonne Sullivan-Temple

Emma Lavonne Sullivan-Temple

This is awesome…there is no greater way to make a terrible situation…work out for the better good of man…PROUD TO BE AMERICAN>>AND VERY PROUD OF OUR MILITARY…YALL ARE ALWAYS IN MY PRAYERS..GOD BLESS
Devon Delaney

Devon Delaney

GOD BLESS AMERICA, GOD BLESS AMERICAN SOLDIERS!!! Our prayers are with those who lost loved ones on the day the world stopped turning.
Glenn Long

  • Theinitial numbers are indelible: 8:46 a.m. and 9:02 a.m. Time the burning towers stood: 56 minutes and 102 minutes. Time they took to fall: 12 seconds. From there, they ripple out.Total number killed in attacks (official figure as of 9/5/02): 2,819

    Number of firefighters and paramedics killed: 343

    Number of NYPD officers: 23

    Number of Port Authority police officers: 37

    Number of WTC companies that lost people: 60

    Number of employees who died in Tower One: 1,402

    Number of employees who died in Tower Two: 614

    Number of employees lost at Cantor Fitzgerald: 658

    Number of U.S. troops killed in Operation Enduring Freedom: 22

    Number of nations whose citizens were killed in attacks: 115

    Ratio of men to women who died: 3:1

    Age of the greatest number who died: between 35 and 39

    Bodies found “intact”: 289

    Body parts found: 19,858

    Number of families who got no remains: 1,717

    Estimated units of blood donated to the New York Blood Center: 36,000

Boston Paul

Boston Paul

A Glen thanks for the stats!As far as Forensics go though, someone should have let the boys do their work before they carted all the evidence away.

But that didn’t happen.

Robyn Nicodemus

Robyn Nicodemus

Sweet don’t forget, we never will. Do you remember where you where on that dreadful day. I do.
Antonio De Luca

Antonio De Luca

God bless this your big plan
Candice Joy Blake

Candice Joy Blake

As a Proud Navy Mom, I will never forget! GO NAVY!
Deborah Brazil

Deborah Brazil

Thank-you to all the service men and women for doing what they are doing!!!! WE DO APPRECIATE IT!!!!!!
Ben Bauman

Ben Bauman

To thecaptian and crew of the USS New York,,,,, Fair Winds and Following SeasFrom a former Marine
SEMPER FI

Steve Compton

Steve Compton

If you like this video of Grammy Award Winner and former Lead Singer of the group Shenandoah singing the Patriotic Song “A Day To Remember” please copy it and share it with all of your friends here on Facebook and your friends not on Facebook.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huAMk7LlL5Q

Boston Paul

Boston Paul

I was wondering if anyone thought it a bit odd, that the steel from the 911 tragedy was gathered up and sent out within a couple of weeks. Much of it was sold to China and some of it was used to make the USS New York.Ground Zero was a crime scene, no one is supposed to touch anything at a crime scene until forensics and other professionals have gathered all the evidence possible to determine what happened.

Cops/Forensics Officers will spend months, sometimes years investigating a murder of ONE person. They go back to the crime scene – left untouched – to gather as much evidence as they can, sometimes the scene is left alone just in case there is new evidence to be found. How is it then that the murder of 3000 people was investigated for less than a couple of weeks and then much of the crime scene’s evidence (the steel) was sold to a Communist country?…

Food for thought.

September 18, 2009 at 12:12pm ·
Boston Paul

Boston Paul

I seethat that no one else thinks this is odd at all.Would still like to hear some of your thoughts.

~None ever came~

Politics: Military News Network Dialogue~ TOPIC: Photos from the Frontlines/January 20, 2010

This thread is an interesting one.

Observe the reactions/responses of Patriots (often Conservative, Fundamentalist, Protestant Christian somehow connected to the Military) when asked about America’s Wars in The Middle East.

We pray that they do not represent the majority of Americans.

In this thread, observe the reactions of the ‘Patriots’ when I ask why we are in the Middle East. Not one of them answers my Questions. I am trying to get my head around how me asking a simple Question: ‘Why is the U.S. in is in the Middle East’ equates with ‘not Supporting the Troops’.

Interesting Read…

Read on…

Thread from MNN:

  • MilitaryNewsNetwork.com says new photos from the frontlines includes Soldiers from the 4th and 17th Cavalry Regiments and the 501st Infantry Regiment, Marines at Observation Post Huskars, Marines of 2/2, and more!
GOD BLESS THE TROOPS! keep watch of them and bring them all home safely !
 
 
Pat Heine
Bold, brave,best, the three words to describe our troops. Be safe we love you, we pray for you come home soon and be safe.
 
 
Jeanna East
God Bless them all for keeping us safe every day………….
 
 
Boston Paul
Greetings Jeanna!

Could you (or anyone else) give any examples of how The Military is keeping us safe everyday?

Much appreciated!

 
 
Gordy Parks
come on? If you don’t know by now, they could bite you in the a– and you still wouldn’t get it.
 
 
Ann P. Lee
You know Boston Paul if you don’t like what our military personnel do by leaving their families & going to foreign soil to protect our borders from afar, and help rid those countries of the the Al-Quaeda/Taliban morons, then you need to get off your ASS & move to another country! Stop berating families who care for this country AND LOVE THEIR LOVED ONES & WHO BELIEVE IN GOD, not some metaphysical being! I am the grandmother of a 20-yr. old Marine and don’t tolerate you peace loving hippie styles!
 
Carl Hendricks
Ann P. Lee, BRAVO ZULU!
 
 
Lisa Governo
God Bless You Ann P. Lee…I agree with you, Boston Paul has no right to call himself an American…move to Afghanistan and maybe you’d appreciate our soldiers. My son is in Afghanistan fighting for your freedom and I can’t believe there are people like you who don’t appreciate the sacrifices they and their families make, just hoping they will come home safe. Boston Paul you should be ashamed of yourself!
 
*My Note: I asked a Question.  Why should I be ashamed of myself for asking a Question?
 

Boston Paul

Greetings all.
None of you have answered my Question.

If you feel I am not a Good American (UNAmerican), you must also feel that Thomas Jefferson was UnAmerican as well.

Thomas Jefferson gave us the Go Ahead on asking Questions like this.

I served my Country with the élite 82nd Airborne Division for 4 years.

I am a combat vet.

Call me a Militant Hippie then.

 
😉

Bombarding people with Nationalistic Rhetoric (as you have done) to People who ask questions is Un American.

Freedom of Speech and Freedom to Question the Government. The U.S. Constitution &  Bill of Rights demands this.

Ann P.: You don’t like Peace Lovers (be them Hippie or not)?

 
Interesting.
 

That answers my question in part then.

Would anyone care to give me intelligent answers to my Questions?

(I have added a couple more)

1. How is the American Military protecting our Freedoms in another country?

2. Why is the US Military in The Middle East in the first place?

3. Where are you getting your Information concerning Military Activities in the Middle East?

I do appreciate your thoughtful responses.

 
 
Debra Northcross
thank you for all youve done in keeping us safe
 
 
Bertha Ward
May God bless and protect all our troops firhting for our
country.
 

Boston Paul

Lisa, I was in Afghanistan in the 80’s when America was ‘friends’ with the Taliban.

Then, the Taliban were called the Mujahideen.

Does anyone remember the Rambo Movie when he was fighting with the ‘Freedom Fighters’ against Russia?

Well that was Rambo helping out the Mujahideen that later became the Taliban.

Does anyone here know the history of Afghanistan?

Have you thought about how one minute they can be friends of the US and the next they are foe?

Is there anyone here on this thread intelligent enough to discuss my questions above?

Don’t we all want Truth? In the Search for Truth, we must all agree to disagree.

There is no need for mudslinging and name calling in scholarly discourse.

Why did the American Government Invade (and are now Occupying) countries in the Middle East?

Are you a real American? Then ask these Questions and find Answers!

This is what Real Americans do.

The Fathers of America demanded this.

 
They included it in our Constitution and our Bill of Rights.

Stop with the Fox News dribble, the Glenn Beck Spew and all that other Ridiculous Rhetoric many of you regurgitate from the Corporate Media.

Think for yourselves. The ‘Fathers’ of America did.

 
 
Boston Paul
As usual, the silent ‘moral majority’ is silent.

bostonpaul.wordpress.com

 
 
Steve George
I respect those soldiers who think they are fighting for freedom. With those brave young Americans in mind I think the question is important – how are they keeping us safe?

They are being treated unfairly and lied to by their own government.

It’s not their fault.

The government is risking the lives of the soldiers that so many of you know and love. I think that you owe it to your loved ones to question your government. Support the troops and keep them from unnecessary harm and danger.

The US military is not keeping America safe by invading other countries.

They are Stirring hatred and creating terrorism – desperate, angry people from war ravaged countries are going to fight back.

I’m sure that most of you would prefer that your loved ones were at home instead of overseas fighting. So would I.

Ann, was that some sort of typo, or did you really say that you don’t tolerate peace-lovers? Shouldn’t we all hope for Peace, even if we disagree about how to achieve it?

 

Politics: Military News Network Dialogue Week of January 19 ~ 25, 2010

 

MNN’s POST:

  • MilitaryNewsNetwork.com has new photos of our troops working hard in Afghanistan to help keep America safe and secure.

  

  

Toni Wooten-Lutz
God Bless all of you!!! You are all in my thoughts and prayers for a safe homecoming! Prayers to all of the families as well! Thank you for protecting America!!!
 
 
Jen Barnard Kopser
Thank you to all of our service members. Semper Paratus (USCG)
 
 
Boston Paul
“has new photos of our troops working hard in Afghanistan to help keep America safe and secure.”

Could anyone give any examples of how The Military is protecting America and keeping us safe?

Much appreciated!

 
Darlene Ireland Curott
God Bless all our troops and their families and bring them home safe. We don’t know all of you but we know your hearts and souls by your sacrifices and Thank you every day in our prayers
 
 
Kwinn Sutton
you see, years ago terrorists flew two planes into the twin towers. yeah. so we invaded the countries with terrorists in them to take them out so they dont attack us. its called defending ourselves.
 
 
John Bettis
God Bless each and every one of our troops and thank you for keeping us free you are all in my prayers
 
 
Boston Paul
Greetings Kwinn! Besides Fox News and any of the corporate media outlets, do you have any evidence?

Who were the Terrorists that flew the planes into the Towers?

Why did America Invade Iraq then? 

Iraq had nothing to do with 911.
America invaded the country of Iraq under suspicion that they ‘might’ have weapons of mass destruction (again NOT because of 911).

Weapons were never found.

Why is the US still Occupying this country then?

Appreciate the thoughtful response.

 
 
LaTonia Huckabee
Ok Boston Bettis , you sound like a muslim loving freak , why dont you go and stand in front of our troops you idiot and see how much love those murders give you . YOU ARE DISPICABLE get off the computer before you really piss me off !!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 
Linda Yaeger
LaTonia be respectful of others and it migt help us all. Not everyone who ha an opinion is a lover of an enemy and not every Muslim is a terrorist. That kind of thinking creates wars nd I love and respect te troops too much to put them in more harms way because of thet kind of dislike/hate.
 
 
LiAnna Mearing
Ok BOSTON, Seriously if you don’t like what we are doing why don’t you go over and try to reason with them. I wouldn’t mind you standing between my husband and the enemies guns!!!!!!! Lets see if they listen to you or just shoot you in the face! I bet they don’t give two shits about what you would have to say.
 
 
LaTonia Huckabee
I dont repect any one that dont know who flew the planes into the towers , did you read his comment ! Maybe you should re read it , and if you think it puts our troops in harms way for me not to like muslims , then maybe you better rethink a few things ,do you think they love you ? I have a grandson in the Military that has been to Iraq to protect the rights of idiots to say stupid things , does that ring a bell ?
 
 
Boston Paul
Thank you Linda and very well said.

Greetings LaTonia.

LaTonia, you did not answer my questions and calling people names gets us no where in scholarly discourse.

Do you think you could mull it over a bit LaTonia?

A real American asks Questions like these. The Fathers of America encouraged that we always question our government.

Most American do not really know why we are there.

I would like to here your thoughts.

We all want Peace (one hopes). We all want to get our Troops back on American Soil. We should find ways to do that, and one way to get them home is to ask, why are they there in the first place?

Your Thoughts?

 
Today at 12:42pm ·
Boston Paul
LaTonia, I thought I would also leave this link for you:

bostonpaul.wordpress.com

Dialogue between us might be a little bit better once you read the bio and understand who you are discussing these questions with.

Peace.

 
 
Boston Paul
LaTonia. You have not answered the Question my Fellow Patriot.

Could you please humor me and tell me who was responsible for flying those planes into the towers, and please include a source.

Fox news and the like are not reliable sources.

Explain also how Troops in Iraq are fighting for freedom of speech i.e. “the rights of idiots to say stupid things”

I am enjoying the discourse with you in our pursuit of Truth.

 
 
Gregg Graham
Thank You! For it is upon your shoulders that we are able to walk free!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 
Joy Ce Jones Sherman
Hey, do us all a favor here in the USA, stay in Taiwan.
 
 
Deb Cedergren
GOD BLESS ALL OF OUR SOLDIERS.
 
Kay Collins
If it isn,t Boston its David,let us military families get our military news,with out your jackass opinion,and pass along blessings to the troops!
 
 
Boston Paul
  • Greetings Kay. Actually, I have not given an opinion, jack-ass or otherwise. I asked a few questions (see above) and still no one has been able to answer them.

    I have been posting here for a few months, I have asked this question quite a few times, and so far no one has answered the questions I ask. Why not?

    Real Americans Question their Government.

    Here are a few quotes from someone we all know:

    “The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it always to be kept alive.”

    “The will of the people is the only legitimate foundation of any government, and to protect its free expression should be our first object.”

    “Conquest is not in our principles. It is inconsistent with our government.”

    “Educate and inform the whole mass of the people… They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty.”

    “I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.”

    “That government is best which governs the least, because its people discipline themselves”

    “War is an instrument entirely inefficient toward redressing wrong; and multiplies, instead of indemnifying losses. “

    “When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty”

    ~All Quotes: Thomas Jefferson.

    AGAIN:

    Why is America in Iraq?

    Why is America in Afghanistan?

    Explain how American Troops are protecting our Freedoms by invading and Occupying 2 countries?

    Fellow Patriots: Your Thoughts?

 

 

Boston Paul

  • Here are a couple more…

    “Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?”

    “America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.”

    Abraham Lincoln

    Knowledge is Power.

    Always Question Authority.

 
Elaina Jordan Robinson
I wish everyone piece of mind and to believe that your families are holding it down for u. There is support here and we will not let u down. Be safe and thank you.
 
 
LaTonia Huckabee
I will leave one last comment as too the idiots writing here , like Boston Paul and Linda , do not call me your fellow patriot, we have different beliefs and you sound like an uninformed pholosipher on crack . Keep your stupid remarks to yourself . OUR TROOPS ARE THE GREATEST IN THE WORLD AND DONT NEED STUPID COMMENTS BY YOU OR ANY OTHER NUT CASE . GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS AND KEEP THEM SAFE …OOHRAH
 
 
Kay Collins
Boston I did not or choose not come to this site to answer your questions,I don,t owe you any answers,once again let us get our military news and send our blessings to the troops!So what is your point of your input,my opinion to argue or debate your thoughts,I think u are a jackass and thats my opinion,just as you have yours,
 
 
Boston Paul
Kay, Latonia, I am simply asking questions. Which to date, no one has actually answered. I have not stated any opinions. I have not said anything negative about the Troops.

And speaking of the Troops…

I know all about the Soldier and their lives and the Sacrifices they make. I was in the 82nd Airborne for 4 years and I am a combat vet. Kay and LaTonia, I assume neither of you have ever been in Combat (and though you may have loved ones in the Sandbox and emotions run high, you will never know what we Troopers go through)…. See More

The beauty of a Child is that they are never afraid to ask questions. We lose that as adults. I’m not sure why. But perhaps it is because when someone does ask a Question, they are berated, ridiculed and scorned.

I ask anyway. As we all should.

Indeed Kay, you did not come to this site to answer my questions, you could have ignored me completely as most have done in this thread. You don’t owe me any answers, but you did choose to engage, spew your sentiment and yet still not address the very direct Questions that I have asked.

LaTonia, ‘Uninformed Philosopher on Crack’. Well done! I am using this one. That being said, since I am uninformed, I am asking these questions… perhaps someone could inform me?

Bring me up to speed?

I have been living abroad for a good many years and am trying to get my head around these Questions – see above.

Peace and Much Love to all of you.

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